eg when the whole point of function A is to call function B under certain conditions, Claude may just…forget to call function B. and not fix this, after repeated reminders.
aaaah 😱 how are there people who don’t find this completely utterly insane to accept such a behaviour from a coding tool?
for me, it’s like an elevator that “sometimes” jumped half a meter and then refused to go to some floors—I would call the emergency repair line if that happened and not try to excuse it that “it’s so much more convenient than the stairs, even if you have to press the 6th floor button multiple times—it might drive you to the 12th floor first, 4th floor second, but it will almost certainly work on the 3rd try” … and if I broke my leg (~didn’t know how to program in some language), this unreliable elevator would sound MORE scary to me, not less
I think I must be missing some kind of adrenaline enthusiasm that makes me less excited around hype for an incompetent technology that will probably kill us all not long after it gets actually competent … or just generally becoming a grumpy old man.
Unacceptable compared to what? the automated coding tool that never gets anything wrong? But that doesn’t exist. Compared to doing it myself? It would be, if I were better at web dev! but at the moment the comparison point is “no website at all” and it’s clearly better than that.
Have we became so anti-social that the only 2 options are to do it alone or not at all?
I’m afraid that I do understand your point of view—I feel myself very exhausted for the last few years so I was not helping my friends in open source lately, so they opted for coding assistants instead and now when I see the code I feel recoil from the AI slop and I do not wish to return to the project. If they want things done and I don’t “want” to help, what are their options?
Brave new world we live in, infinite productivity increase from zero to something for people who don’t have time to became good at a craft, burnout for a few of us who used to be good and well paid but became overwhelmed by the ever-ready Waluiging incompetent assistant attractor.
i was always antisocial; i literally don’t know how this worked in the Before Times. you… ask your buddy to write code for you? isn’t that a pretty big favor? i ask my friends software questions all the time, but that’s smaller. & i never touched open source contribution because it seemed more like a thing for stronger progranmers. are you saying you would ordinarily react to thinking “this app should exist” by starting an open-source project?
It’s fine—you get used to having to throw away the last hour’s work, but since you were scrolling twitter at the time it’s not that much of a loss...
If you roll the dice enough times you get your answer. Or at least close enough for you to not have to have written what it came up with. And every now and then it gets things perfectly right on the first try!
aaaah 😱 how are there people who don’t find this completely utterly insane to accept such a behaviour from a coding tool?
for me, it’s like an elevator that “sometimes” jumped half a meter and then refused to go to some floors—I would call the emergency repair line if that happened and not try to excuse it that “it’s so much more convenient than the stairs, even if you have to press the 6th floor button multiple times—it might drive you to the 12th floor first, 4th floor second, but it will almost certainly work on the 3rd try” … and if I broke my leg (~didn’t know how to program in some language), this unreliable elevator would sound MORE scary to me, not less
I think I must be missing some kind of adrenaline enthusiasm that makes me less excited around hype for an incompetent technology that will probably kill us all not long after it gets actually competent … or just generally becoming a grumpy old man.
Unacceptable compared to what? the automated coding tool that never gets anything wrong? But that doesn’t exist. Compared to doing it myself? It would be, if I were better at web dev! but at the moment the comparison point is “no website at all” and it’s clearly better than that.
Have we became so anti-social that the only 2 options are to do it alone or not at all?
I’m afraid that I do understand your point of view—I feel myself very exhausted for the last few years so I was not helping my friends in open source lately, so they opted for coding assistants instead and now when I see the code I feel recoil from the AI slop and I do not wish to return to the project. If they want things done and I don’t “want” to help, what are their options?
Brave new world we live in, infinite productivity increase from zero to something for people who don’t have time to became good at a craft, burnout for a few of us who used to be good and well paid but became overwhelmed by the ever-ready Waluiging incompetent assistant attractor.
i was always antisocial; i literally don’t know how this worked in the Before Times. you… ask your buddy to write code for you? isn’t that a pretty big favor? i ask my friends software questions all the time, but that’s smaller. & i never touched open source contribution because it seemed more like a thing for stronger progranmers. are you saying you would ordinarily react to thinking “this app should exist” by starting an open-source project?
It’s fine—you get used to having to throw away the last hour’s work, but since you were scrolling twitter at the time it’s not that much of a loss...
If you roll the dice enough times you get your answer. Or at least close enough for you to not have to have written what it came up with. And every now and then it gets things perfectly right on the first try!