Not especially. This post is still here because I’m feeling too lethargic to delete it, but the /r/xkcd moderator deleted most of the basilisk discussion on their recent thread because it violated their Rule 3, “Be Nice”. This is a fine upstanding policy, and I fully agree with it. If there’s one thing we can deduce about the motives of future superintelligences, it’s that they simulate people who talk about Roko’s Basilisk and condemn them to an eternity of forum posts about Roko’s Basilisk. So far as official policy goes, go talk about it somewhere else. But in this special case I won’t ban any RB discussion such that /r/xkcd would allow it to occur there. Sounds fair to me.
Typical low-moderation problems. Repeated discussions of contentious but played-out issues like religion, IQ, status of various fields, etc. The basilisk is an infohazard in that sense at this point, IMO. It’s fun to argue about, to the point of displacing other worthwhile discussion.
Eliezer has denied that the exact Basilisk scenario is a danger, but not that anything like it can be a danger. He seems to think that discussing acausal trade with future AIs can be dangerous enough that we shouldn’t talk about the details.
Eliezer has done (2) many times.
Doing 2 without doing 1 looks insincere.
This post is still here, isn’t it?
If I remember right, earlier this year a few posts did disappear.
I’m also not aware of any explicit withdrawal of the previous policy.
We conclude that free discussion is now allowed, so maybe all that’s really missing is putting that up explicitly somewhere that can be linked to?
Not especially. This post is still here because I’m feeling too lethargic to delete it, but the /r/xkcd moderator deleted most of the basilisk discussion on their recent thread because it violated their Rule 3, “Be Nice”. This is a fine upstanding policy, and I fully agree with it. If there’s one thing we can deduce about the motives of future superintelligences, it’s that they simulate people who talk about Roko’s Basilisk and condemn them to an eternity of forum posts about Roko’s Basilisk. So far as official policy goes, go talk about it somewhere else. But in this special case I won’t ban any RB discussion such that /r/xkcd would allow it to occur there. Sounds fair to me.
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Are you implying that the basilisk discussion is somehow censored on this forum?
It doesn’t appear to be censored in this thread, but it was historically censored on LessWrong. Maybe EY finally understood the Streisand effect.
He might do it less for the “danger” and more for “bad discussion”. The threads I see on /sci/ raising questions about high IQ come to mind.
Well, most threads I see on /sci/ come to mind.
I don’t read /sci/ therefore I don’t understand what you mean.
Do you know of it?
No, I’ve just found out that it is a board on 4chan.
Typical low-moderation problems. Repeated discussions of contentious but played-out issues like religion, IQ, status of various fields, etc. The basilisk is an infohazard in that sense at this point, IMO. It’s fun to argue about, to the point of displacing other worthwhile discussion.
LessWrong also has low moderation. Why would the basilisk generate more trivial discussion than other topics?
Eliezer has denied that the exact Basilisk scenario is a danger, but not that anything like it can be a danger. He seems to think that discussing acausal trade with future AIs can be dangerous enough that we shouldn’t talk about the details.