One of the things I love about this is that the people who I appreciate the most might very well downvote it, to prove that they haven’t been tricked by all the flattery.
Those people are the most ingroup of all, and I can express my appreciation for them by being humbly grateful for their downvotes.
Their downvote-to-show-understanding is a sort of an echo of my meta-pandering-OP <3
A little piece of me wishes I could get a list of the people I’m being humbly grateful to, but part of the joys of timeless coordination is that you don’t have to do all that expensive interpersonal hand-shaking every time you want a single pitiful bilateral link in a coordination network to not fail.
Maybe some of my downvoters are downvoting without irony or awareness, but… I’m OK with that too <3
The real question is how many (and how large of) cliques there are around these parts that do have powers of multi-step inference, and have done N(N-1)/2 bilateral handshakes, such that the entire clique, thrown into a standard one-shot 0-to-100-scaled p-beauty contest with each other, would all justifiably bid zero.
One thing I would want to point out to people who “don’t get the joke yet” (so they feel “called to learn more” rather than “getting an ego bruise”) is to learn that humans-in-general do almost zero steps of serial processing, but rely almost entirely (even when doing math proofs from scratch) on cached thoughts, and so one of the best methods they could have to understood this joke (or “get gud” at the math) is almost only by having already been exposed to this kind of joke (and the math that undergirds it) in the deep past, so the relevant stuff was in their cache.
Luckily, we are still in the deep past relative to the massive amounts of chaos and need for coordination that probably exists in most possible futures.
So they can read the two links I’ve offered, and ponder them, especially in conjunction, maybe re-reading them both again after pondering how they might be related.
And in meantime, in the short term, I hope (but believe it is unlikely) that there are many “zero bid beauty contest cliques” among my readership, and I hope they make sure to keep my vote count decently low, and I hope each one also elects a leader to send me a Direct Message :-)
This is, of course, unlikely… but it is slightly more likely to happen in good timelines, and it is important to have hope.
It is maybe telling that the people downvoting and using the sophistry of the reacts do not comment. Though, to be honest, for me, you are playing a bit too much of a 4D chess game here.
One possible response: Wigner space has way more than four dimensions. Eventually, if I keep knocking on doors like this, maybe I’ll find an opening to a dimension where we survive on purpose rather than “by accident or not at all”.
Another possible response: Now the downvoters are expressing their admiration for your emotional fortitude as well! You have my apologies for causing them to admire you in this way. But since you are part of ingroup, I bet you have the toughness to take it! <3
Another possible response: I sent the person with the interesting reacts a DM to ask about some of the logic to thank them for the kind honesty and ask for more of the logic behind the the “disagreement” react. I still don’t understand it.
This might require too many inferences even for the ingroup.
One of the things I love about this is that the people who I appreciate the most might very well downvote it, to prove that they haven’t been tricked by all the flattery.
Those people are the most ingroup of all, and I can express my appreciation for them by being humbly grateful for their downvotes.
Their downvote-to-show-understanding is a sort of an echo of my meta-pandering-OP <3
A little piece of me wishes I could get a list of the people I’m being humbly grateful to, but part of the joys of timeless coordination is that you don’t have to do all that expensive interpersonal hand-shaking every time you want a single pitiful bilateral link in a coordination network to not fail.
Maybe some of my downvoters are downvoting without irony or awareness, but… I’m OK with that too <3
The real question is how many (and how large of) cliques there are around these parts that do have powers of multi-step inference, and have done N(N-1)/2 bilateral handshakes, such that the entire clique, thrown into a standard one-shot 0-to-100-scaled p-beauty contest with each other, would all justifiably bid zero.
One thing I would want to point out to people who “don’t get the joke yet” (so they feel “called to learn more” rather than “getting an ego bruise”) is to learn that humans-in-general do almost zero steps of serial processing, but rely almost entirely (even when doing math proofs from scratch) on cached thoughts, and so one of the best methods they could have to understood this joke (or “get gud” at the math) is almost only by having already been exposed to this kind of joke (and the math that undergirds it) in the deep past, so the relevant stuff was in their cache.
Luckily, we are still in the deep past relative to the massive amounts of chaos and need for coordination that probably exists in most possible futures.
So they can read the two links I’ve offered, and ponder them, especially in conjunction, maybe re-reading them both again after pondering how they might be related.
And in meantime, in the short term, I hope (but believe it is unlikely) that there are many “zero bid beauty contest cliques” among my readership, and I hope they make sure to keep my vote count decently low, and I hope each one also elects a leader to send me a Direct Message :-)
This is, of course, unlikely… but it is slightly more likely to happen in good timelines, and it is important to have hope.
It is maybe telling that the people downvoting and using the sophistry of the reacts do not comment. Though, to be honest, for me, you are playing a bit too much of a 4D chess game here.
One possible response: Wigner space has way more than four dimensions. Eventually, if I keep knocking on doors like this, maybe I’ll find an opening to a dimension where we survive on purpose rather than “by accident or not at all”.
Another possible response: Now the downvoters are expressing their admiration for your emotional fortitude as well! You have my apologies for causing them to admire you in this way. But since you are part of ingroup, I bet you have the toughness to take it! <3
Another possible response: I sent the person with the interesting reacts a DM to ask about some of the logic to thank them for the kind honesty and ask for more of the logic behind the the “disagreement” react. I still don’t understand it.