I don’t think this is true. This sounds like an issue that stems from the manner in which one approaches conversations, not the sorts of things one talks about.
I do not expect a longer comment on discussion to be useful to this thread (or, more importantly, to the post it’s under), but I would like to put some chips down on the idea that talking to people in respectful and non-smug ways can be a good way to talk about “things that actually matter”.
in the last 5 months I have learned some things about how I engage in truth seeking with people and have updated in this direction, though still think there are important cases of my original point*. I think learning to distinguish them better has been and continues to be high value for me.
*specifically, that people will de facto prioritize their feelings of discomfort in an argument from consequences way even when the outcomes are morally fraught.
I don’t think this is true. This sounds like an issue that stems from the manner in which one approaches conversations, not the sorts of things one talks about.
I do not expect a longer comment on discussion to be useful to this thread (or, more importantly, to the post it’s under), but I would like to put some chips down on the idea that talking to people in respectful and non-smug ways can be a good way to talk about “things that actually matter”.
in the last 5 months I have learned some things about how I engage in truth seeking with people and have updated in this direction, though still think there are important cases of my original point*. I think learning to distinguish them better has been and continues to be high value for me.
*specifically, that people will de facto prioritize their feelings of discomfort in an argument from consequences way even when the outcomes are morally fraught.