(I am curious of examples of this, either here or via PM. I think I basically agree with you that there were multiple period in which we haven’t been able to reliably moderate all content on LW, but I also care about setting the historical record straight, and right now we have a bunch more resources for moderation available than we had over the last few weeks, so it might still be the correct call to add mod annotations to those threads, saying that these things are over the line. I have somewhat complicated feelings about writing publicly that we are in a private conversation with someone, since that does tend to warp expectations a bunch, but I am still pretty open to making it a policy that when we ping users about infractions in private, that we also make a relevant note on the thread, and that the benefits might just reliably outweigh the costs here.)
The vast majority of the examples are in the two Dragon Army threads, one from LW1 and the other from LW2, which are now Gone. I am willing to share the PDFs with you (Ray already has them), but in this case there’s no useful retroactive action.
(The rest are in the thread quoted in this essay, and at my last check (last night) are still un-addressed.)
I don’t remember anything in the second Dragon Army thread that fit this pattern, but it’s been a while and I was pretty busy at the time and don’t think I was able to read everything before the thread got removed, so I would be curious about the pdf.
Agree that there are things unresolved in the thread quoted here. I definitely plan to address them, but currently want to wait until the private conversations we are having with people come to a natural stop.
Interested in more input on this. It seems obvious to me that future readers of the original Dragon Army thread should not think that writing stuff like the numbers guy did, will not result in a ban or punishment. And since I want LessWrong to be a timeless archive, it’s important for historic discussion to be kept similarly curated as present discussion.
If you only plan on annotating past discussions that have long-since died, I mind a lot less. But for a discussion that is still live or potentially live, it feels like standing on a platform and shouting through a loudspeaker. I’d advocate for only annotating comments without any activity within the past X months.
Ah, yes. I was thinking of all the old stuff that is much older than that (such as the original DA thread). Anything that’s still active should have different policies.
(I am curious of examples of this, either here or via PM. I think I basically agree with you that there were multiple period in which we haven’t been able to reliably moderate all content on LW, but I also care about setting the historical record straight, and right now we have a bunch more resources for moderation available than we had over the last few weeks, so it might still be the correct call to add mod annotations to those threads, saying that these things are over the line. I have somewhat complicated feelings about writing publicly that we are in a private conversation with someone, since that does tend to warp expectations a bunch, but I am still pretty open to making it a policy that when we ping users about infractions in private, that we also make a relevant note on the thread, and that the benefits might just reliably outweigh the costs here.)
The vast majority of the examples are in the two Dragon Army threads, one from LW1 and the other from LW2, which are now Gone. I am willing to share the PDFs with you (Ray already has them), but in this case there’s no useful retroactive action.
(The rest are in the thread quoted in this essay, and at my last check (last night) are still un-addressed.)
I don’t remember anything in the second Dragon Army thread that fit this pattern, but it’s been a while and I was pretty busy at the time and don’t think I was able to read everything before the thread got removed, so I would be curious about the pdf.
Agree that there are things unresolved in the thread quoted here. I definitely plan to address them, but currently want to wait until the private conversations we are having with people come to a natural stop.
i find this idea very distasteful
Interested in more input on this. It seems obvious to me that future readers of the original Dragon Army thread should not think that writing stuff like the numbers guy did, will not result in a ban or punishment. And since I want LessWrong to be a timeless archive, it’s important for historic discussion to be kept similarly curated as present discussion.
If you only plan on annotating past discussions that have long-since died, I mind a lot less. But for a discussion that is still live or potentially live, it feels like standing on a platform and shouting through a loudspeaker. I’d advocate for only annotating comments without any activity within the past X months.
Ah, yes. I was thinking of all the old stuff that is much older than that (such as the original DA thread). Anything that’s still active should have different policies.