Budapest, Múzeum Kert Játszótér, Pollack Mihály tér, Hungary
We’ll again be doing the location at muzeum kert right by the playground. Even though the benches couldn’t be moved around, it worked pretty well last time (and was of course very convenient for me, since I could send off the monster I have created to climb off her excess energy while still keeping an eye on her).
Instead of running a poll for the June meetup, we’ll be just being a topic around an essay I recently read which I wanted to talk about. However, here is a poll for the July meetup:
For this month’s meetup we’re going to talk about the way that people can end up having totally different models and experiences of the world, despite the way that we’d expect them to end up thinking the same thing. Why is it that there seems to be a bimodal distribution around whether people think things are generally terrible or generally good? Some women claim to in practice never experience discrimination due to their gender, while others, working in the same field and sometimes the same company experience a huge amount. What is going on with these very different experiences of the world?
More generally, why is it that we can often have huge disagreements where two people see the same facts and draw totally different interpretations of it?
My suggested readings are two articles from Slate Star Codex, and another recent (very long) essay by Duncan Sabien that prompted this line of thought.
First, here is the long post by Duncan Sabien which is basically about how hard it is to either escape or help people who have a generally dark model of the world and other people:
Here’s an essay where Scott talks about the idea of trapped priors—ie cases where because someone has an interpretation for all evidence that shows up as support for their position, it becomes impossible for them to realize when/if they are wrong
June 29th Meetup—Muzeum kert
We’ll again be doing the location at muzeum kert right by the playground. Even though the benches couldn’t be moved around, it worked pretty well last time (and was of course very convenient for me, since I could send off the monster I have created to climb off her excess energy while still keeping an eye on her).
Instead of running a poll for the June meetup, we’ll be just being a topic around an essay I recently read which I wanted to talk about. However, here is a poll for the July meetup:
For this month’s meetup we’re going to talk about the way that people can end up having totally different models and experiences of the world, despite the way that we’d expect them to end up thinking the same thing. Why is it that there seems to be a bimodal distribution around whether people think things are generally terrible or generally good? Some women claim to in practice never experience discrimination due to their gender, while others, working in the same field and sometimes the same company experience a huge amount. What is going on with these very different experiences of the world?
More generally, why is it that we can often have huge disagreements where two people see the same facts and draw totally different interpretations of it?
My suggested readings are two articles from Slate Star Codex, and another recent (very long) essay by Duncan Sabien that prompted this line of thought.
First, here is the long post by Duncan Sabien which is basically about how hard it is to either escape or help people who have a generally dark model of the world and other people:
https://homosabiens.substack.com/p/truth-or-dare
Here’s an old post by Scott about the phenomenon of people seeming to live in different worlds
https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/10/02/different-worlds/
Here’s an essay where Scott talks about the idea of trapped priors—ie cases where because someone has an interpretation for all evidence that shows up as support for their position, it becomes impossible for them to realize when/if they are wrong
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/trapped-priors-as-a-basic-problem?hide_intro_popup=true
I look forward to seeing lots of you at the meetup,
Tim