Teach everyone else to cooperate then defect
Lawliet
Don’t assume the rationalists have super powerful technology.
It’s beside the point, but your idea of torture might be a bit light if you would undergo five minutes out of curiosity.
The manga/anime series “Death Note”
It’s a long mental battle between two clever people, not much for rationality techniques, but characters think rationally, and the magical parts have well defined rules, similar to Lawrence Watt-Evans’ fiction.
I would be terribly thankful to anybody who could reccomend me some more stories involving these sorts of fights. Trickery and betrayal is common enough, but a prolonged fued of this nature is rare.
I think he is implying that we think we agree when we dont really, in that case he would expect us to vote in agreement with you.
Judgment Under Uncertainty: Heuristics and Biases, collection edited by Daniel Kahneman, Amos Tversky and Paul Slovic
Curious, are you proud of how difficult you find lying?
I dont know much about charity, but I dont contest that this was made up in a day.
“Never fix the worst problem first, because thats the way skin heals”
If you could gave me a magic button to kill 10 people and make me rich, without any tricky business (like risk of being punished) then I would push it.
I should also hope that nobody else would, and by the sound of things many wouldn’t.
Other sites with similar systems have a constant stream of junk posts that nobody sees, wasnt the promotion/voting system meant to bring the rare good ones out of the junk?
If you’re hoping for a growing community, wont it be even harder to maintain a slow post rate?
Godel, Escher, Bach, Douglas Hofstadter
if our beloved Omega takes up a job as an oracle for humanity, and we can just ask him any question at any time and be confident in his answer, what should happen to our pursuit of rationality?
dunno, ask Omega
I don’t go around telling people, and if I was in the audience I would raise my hand with everybody else.
Something always felt wrong when somebody said “because I say so”, so the truth from others couldn’t be trusted. I knew I wanted never to become the kind of person who answers with “because I say so”.
If you want to stop someone from reading a book, there’s generally better ways than telling them not to do it.
That aside, kids can be surprisingly dumb, I wouldn’t rely on them reaching the right conclusions even with assistance.
Congratulations, you’ve written the most horrifying sentence I’ve read all day.
Tricking the other player is never justified? Did I miss something?
On what basis will free people vote on an idea they disagree with but that is explained well? A hilarious but unrelated pun? A brilliant comment on a post that has nothing to do with it? A valid point by a well known troll?
By “extremely risk-averse” do you mean “working hard to maximise persistence odds” or “very scared of scary scenarios”?
You’re right that death while signed up for cryonics is still a very bad thing, though. I don’t think Eliezer would be fine with deaths if they were signed up, but sometimes he makes it seem that way.
I’d be interested in reading (but not writing) a post about rationalist relationships, specifically the interplay of manipulation, honesty and respect.
Seems more like a group chat than a post, but let’s see what you all think.
The Selfish Gene, Richard Dawkins