I, for one, welcome our bourgeoisie overlords.
Da_Peach
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I agree with the content of the essay, but I disagree with the allocated name.
A grayspace implies it’s just one intermediary place to station potential members. However, the process often involves multiple stages where checks and balances are applied. Furthermore, these intermediate stages may overlap, and the overall transition can be smooth rather than discrete.
It just isn’t directly clear what the term is referring to, since it’s an entirely new word.
Thus, I propose for the people to use in their discussions the term pipeline instead, since it’s an established word used to express the same notion of transitioning people from one state to another, and it correctly expresses that there may be multiple stations. I suspect the essay could have been made much shorter too if a single sentence about the “alt right pipeline” was given, or something similar, since it would instantly hook people up as to what the crux of the topic being discussed is.
I wonder if we can compare the experiences of F->M transitioners versus M->F transitioners to see if things like perception of saturation/etc. are consistent with the hormonal changes, or are they just effects of the body experiencing chemical imbalances/people just being happier after transitioning so the world looks less gloomy
I think that’s not the same, since the code publishing flow looks like this:
employee gets assigned some task
employee off-loads this task to Claude Code after adding specifications/etc.
employee accepts the LLM generated code, and pushes it after reviewing
the pull request review process happens as always
Instead of this:
AI agent gets assigned some task
it writes code and pushes it into production
At least that’s how I’ve seen coding agent integration in my limited experience.
The fundamental problem being talked about in the post is when accountability is shifted to the AI, but since it naturally can’t be held accountable for mistakes, you build architecture that prevents problems from popping up in the first place. And how companies are currently deploying Claude Code, et al. is the employee-centric flow; which doesn’t require any additional internal security measures to be deployed, since the accountability for all the code has not changed at all.
I think stereotype of the stereotype is a mouthful and also not very clear, and thus present the term “presumed stereotype”. Using this in a live conversation should immediately signal to the other party what you mean (that their description is what everyone presumes to be the stereotype, but the actual stereotype (which you would then describe to them) is something else, maybe even the polar opposite).
Could you kindly provide some examples of what you’re talking about?
I’m not American per se, but am interested in hearing about these dysfunctional rules.
That’s a cool way to frame damage risks, but I think your distribution for AI damage is for ASI, not AGI. I think it’s very reasonable that an AGI-based system may cause the type of damage that I am talking about.
Even if you believe that as soon as we achieve AGI, we’ll accelerate to ASI because AGI by definition is self-improving, it still takes time to train a model, and research is slow. I hope that the window b/w AGI & ASI is large enough for such a “Hiroshima event” to occur, so humanity wakes up to the risks of maligned AI systems.
PS: Sorry for the late response, I was offline for a couple of days
To sway public opinion about AI safety, let us consider the case of nuclear warfare—a domain where long-term safety became a serious institutional concern. Nuclear technology wasn’t always surrounded by protocols, safeguards, and watchdogs. In the early days, it was a raw demonstration of power: the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were enough to show the sheer magnitude of destruction possible. That spectacle shocked the global conscience. It didn’t take long before nation after nation realized that this wasn’t just a powerful new toy, but an existential threat. As more countries acquired nuclear capabilities, the world recognized the urgent need for checks, treaties, and oversight. What began as an arms race slowly transformed into a field of serious, respected research and diplomacy—nuclear safety became a field in its own right.
The point is: public concern only follows recognition of risk. AI safety, like nuclear safety, will only be taken seriously when people see it as more than sci-fi paranoia. For that shift to happen, we need respected institutions to champion the threat. Right now, it’s mostly academics raising the alarm. But the public—especially the media and politicians—won’t engage until the danger is demonstrated or convincingly explained. Unfortunately for the AI safety issue, evidence of AI misalignment causing significant trouble will probably mean it’s too late.
Adding fuel to this fire is the fact that politicians aren’t gonna campaign about AI safety if the corpos in your country don’t want to & your enemies are already neck-to-neck in AI dev.In my subjective opinion, we need the AI variant of Hiroshima. But I’m not too keen on this idea, for it is a rather dreadful thought.
Edit: I should clarify what I mean by “the AI variant of Hiroshima.” I don’t think a large-scale inhuman military operation is necessary (as I already said, I don’t want AI warfare). What I mean instead is something that causes significant damage & makes it to newspaper headlines worldwide. Examples: strong evidence that AI swayed the presidential election one way; a gigantic economic crash caused because of a rogue AI (not the AI bubble bursting); millions of jobs being lost in a short timeframe because of one revolutionary model, which then snaps because of misalignment; etc. There are still dreadful, but at least no human lives are lost & it gets the point across that AI safety is an existential issue.
That’s an interesting idea. The military would undoubtedly care about AI alignment — they’d want their systems to operate strictly within set parameters. But the more important question is: do we even want the military to be investing in AI at all? Because that path likely leads to AI-driven warfare. Personally, I’d rather live in a world without autonomous robotic combat or AI-based cyberwarfare.
But as always, I will pray that some institution (like the EU) leads the charge & start instilling it into people’s heads that this is a problem we must solve.
I think this particular issue has less to do with public sentiment & more to do with problems that require solutions which would inconvenience you today for a better tomorrow.
Like climate change: it is an issue everyone recognizes will massively impact the future negatively (to the point where multiple forecasts suggest trillions of dollars of losses). Still, since fixing this issue will cause prices of everyday goods to rise significantly and force people into switching to green alternatives en masse, no one advocates for solutions. News articles get released each year stating record high temperatures & natural disaster rates; people complain that the seasons have been getting more extreme each passing year (for example, the monsoon in Northern India has been really inconsistent for several years now—talking from personal experience). Yet, changes are gradual (carbon tax is still wildly unpopular, and even though the public sentiment around electric cars has been getting tame, people still don’t advocate for anti-car measures).
Compare this to Y2K; it was known that the “bug” would be massively catastrophic, and even though it was massively expensive to fix, they did fix it. Why? Because the issue didn’t affect the lives of common folks substantively.Though my model is certainly not all-encompassing, like how the problem of CFCs causing Ozone depletion in the upper atmosphere was largely solved, even though it very much did impact people’s everyday lives & did cost a lot of money & even required global co-operation. I guess there is a tipping point on the inconvenience caused v/s perceived threat graph when people start mobilizing for the issue.
PS: It’s funny how I ended at the crux of the original article, you should now be able to apply threshold modelling for this issue, since perceived threat largely depends on how many other people (in your local sphere) are shouting that this issue needs everyone’s attention.
I don’t get why this was curated, am I missing something? The piece basically says that what you want to do & what society expects you to do are 2 separate things (a topic which has been explored since time immemorial). Then it says that you should evaluate what you really want to do based on rational thinking & long-term planning (also something incredibly obvious). Is there anything more to it?
I thought the only novel bit was the passage about oxytocin, which is barely 10% of the article.