My theory is that the LLM knows what is persuasive and brute forces it. So we see a ton of repetition (which ironically, is a costly transformer signal, as if writing with ink and pen), and we see antithesis. Regarding other persuasive methods (alliteration etc.), more research is needed. Seems like it is more and more fine tuned to what people ‘like’, possibly by a feedback loop.
What does it mean? It means that we writers are under-using persuasive brute-force methods. We write to sound natural and not specifically persuasive, though in general we do want to be persuasive; this comes from a very human instinct of seeming ‘as if’ “not trying”; LLM don’t have that self-conscious game. It finds the methods, and then uses them ad-nauseum because it works. Why do we have this self-conscious such that we become hyper aware of AI persuasive use?
AaronDF
As you rightly point out, it is a skill that one can train, but also genetic (charisma, public speaking, and general insensitivity to the ‘spotlight’ effect, etc.). Predicting and keeping track of meta-frames in one story, accurately reading people, and the capacity to adjust are all very valuable skills.
However, it is quite energy intensive; so I get why people are called rude; dealing with people is tough; ask service providers. And when people are tired, they make mistakes (I’d wager it is the most social people that are called rude etc.; and we get the ‘bad boy’ paradox). OTOH, like with all skills, practicing fundamentals is a great start.
“By the same logic as Chesterton...”
Why? Are they the same problems? The problems of not having a fence vs. having a fence? Are the false positives and false negatives symmetrical? That would be a massive claim! (Normally, by risk mitigation, they are asymmetrical; the unfortunate reason why we have anxiety in life, and that stupid smoke alarm sound).
Building a prior fence: Maybe the fence was taken down, cause there was no risk of flooding, and it was blocking the animals? Do we have a reason to build now or not?
Chesterton’s Fence: We should not take a fence down, because maybe there will be flooding? Or it will not offer protection from an invading army, and everyone will die? We don’t know, lets not risk it.
There NOT being a fence, is not evidence, that there shouldn’t be a fence (even knowing there was or was not a fence there)...go out and see, should there be a fence or not?
One action requires refraining from destroying a possible benefit; the other leads to action of building a fence. You always normally need a good reason to build a wall. There having already been a wall there helps, but is not dispositive by logic, because as you say, the wall is down, and we have to speculate why it was there or why we should build it now.
The upsides and downsides are very different in your scenarios.
Well, I have to think there is some balancing act here. I do look at life a lot from an evolutionary standpoint, but a flock who listened to their leader, and he was 99% wrong, would not survive long; or the sequence has to start with crushing a homer, and then getting it wrong 99 times. Whats missing here is not fully setting forth the downside of one of the 99 bad ideas.
Or maybe because we survived the basic-needs Malthusian “filter”; that explains the “Moral Outrage”; possibly just outraged at too much information and supposedly “true” memes, and the ratio keeps getting worse. A market crash of the idea ratio. (stagnation or plucked low hanging fruit)
In the end, if you hew to pragmatism (survival and reproduction), you guarantee the Great idea/ to Bad Idea ratio is relatively solid and tested. The theory is we want stability, which just a touch of creativity. Society also allocates places with high-risk reward ratio...and we give them a PHD.
Re: “F1 (Metacritic: 68, Zvi: 2): I’d say the critics are wrong but the people had a good time. Then again, the people don’t know racing. I used to be an actual F1 fan, so let me say both that this is not how any of this works, this has nothing to do with Formula 1, and otherwise this was completely paint by numbers.”
It was an awesome movie (top 3 race movie; It was an F2 Car, sure; but they were going fast. Cool footage. Got people interested in a sport that the Championship came down to 3 dudes, With one race to go. [They even mimicked Max Verstappen’s car RB; the details and camera angles were very cool.]
All in all, it crushed it. But that seems easy when you get cars going 250+ mph.