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Valley of Bad Rationality

TagLast edit: 6 Feb 2021 12:17 UTC by Yoav Ravid

Then I finally reply that my experience so far—even in this realm of merely human possibility—does seem to indicate that, once you sort yourself out a bit and you aren’t doing quite so many other things wrong, striving for more rationality actually will make you better off. The long road leads out of the valley and higher than before, even in the human lands.

Incremental Progress and the Valley

It has been observed that when someone is just starting to learn rationality, they sometimes appear to be worse off than they were before. Someone else may then allege that after this person learns even more about rationality, they will finally be better off than they were before they started. The period before this improvement is known as “the valley of bad rationality”.

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PhilGoetz19 Sep 2009 21:05 UTC
340 points
177 comments5 min readLW link

“No ev­i­dence” as a Valley of Bad Rationality

adamzerner28 Mar 2020 23:45 UTC
99 points
14 comments2 min readLW link

My ex­pe­rience with the “ra­tio­nal­ist un­canny valley”

Thomas Kwa23 Apr 2020 20:27 UTC
62 points
18 comments5 min readLW link

A Pro­cess for Deal­ing with Mo­ti­vated Reasoning

Ikaxas3 Sep 2018 3:34 UTC
15 points
7 comments3 min readLW link

On the Open­ness per­son­al­ity trait & ‘ra­tio­nal­ity’

gwern14 Oct 2011 1:07 UTC
65 points
95 comments8 min readLW link

Sun­set at Noon

Raemon29 Nov 2017 14:52 UTC
136 points
23 comments17 min readLW link

Why Don’t Ra­tion­al­ists Win?

adamzerner5 Sep 2015 0:57 UTC
4 points
118 comments6 min readLW link

STRUCTURE: Real­ity and ra­tio­nal best practice

Hazard1 Feb 2019 23:51 UTC
5 points
2 comments1 min readLW link

Emo­tional tools for the be­gin­ner rationalist

Gleb_Tsipursky9 Oct 2015 5:01 UTC
6 points
44 comments2 min readLW link

Prob­lem of Op­ti­mal False Information

Endovior15 Oct 2012 21:42 UTC
21 points
113 comments1 min readLW link

Bad reductionism

adamzerner16 Dec 2020 8:21 UTC
12 points
0 comments3 min readLW link

Know­ing About Bi­ases Can Hurt People

Eliezer Yudkowsky4 Apr 2007 18:01 UTC
135 points
80 comments2 min readLW link

In­cre­men­tal Progress and the Valley

Eliezer Yudkowsky4 Apr 2009 16:42 UTC
67 points
114 comments5 min readLW link

Mak­ing your ex­plicit rea­son­ing trust­wor­thy

AnnaSalamon29 Oct 2010 0:00 UTC
117 points
95 comments6 min readLW link