Blues & Greens (metaphor)

TagLast edit: 16 Sep 2020 21:50 UTC by Ruby

“Blues and Greens” is a term used to metaphorically refer to opposing political factions.

See also: Tribalism, Mind-killer, Arguments as soldiers, False dilemma, In-group bias

The term come from the names of chariot racing teams, that differed in nothing but the team colors, but the rivalry of whose fans sometimes reached the level of gang wars.1 By definition, politics also deals with matters that people physically fight over in the real world—or at least, matters that are to be enforced by the government’s monopoly on violence.

Politics commonly involves an adversarial process, where factions usually identify with political positions, and use arguments as soldiers to defend their side. When tempered by appropriate standards of evidence, rules of order and other safeguards, such a process may be the only way of introducing a modicum of deliberative truth-seeking and other virtues of rationality into an inherently violent domain. However, the dichotomies presented by the opposing sides are often false dilemmas, which can be shown by presenting third options.

For a variety of reasons, Less Wrong tries to avoid political disputes: see Mind-killer.

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  1. Wikipedia:Chariot racing#Byzantine era

A Fable of Science and Politics

Eliezer Yudkowsky23 Dec 2006 4:50 UTC
252 points
102 comments5 min readLW link

Work­ing With Monsters

johnswentworth20 Jul 2021 15:23 UTC
195 points
54 comments5 min readLW link

Heads I Win, Tails?—Never Heard of Her; Or, Selec­tive Re­port­ing and the Tragedy of the Green Rationalists

Zack_M_Davis24 Sep 2019 4:12 UTC
250 points
40 comments8 min readLW link2 reviews

Blues, Greens and abortion

Snowyowl5 Mar 2011 19:15 UTC
13 points
155 comments1 min readLW link

The Two-Party Swindle

Eliezer Yudkowsky1 Jan 2008 8:38 UTC
67 points
69 comments8 min readLW link

Gam­ing Democracy

Froolow30 Jul 2014 9:45 UTC
14 points
27 comments6 min readLW link

Blue or Green on Reg­u­la­tion?

Eliezer Yudkowsky15 Mar 2007 18:04 UTC
73 points
41 comments4 min readLW link

Manda­tory Obsessions

Jacob Falkovich14 Nov 2018 18:19 UTC
76 points
14 comments6 min readLW link

Only You Can Prevent Your Mind From Get­ting Killed By Politics

ChrisHallquist26 Oct 2013 13:59 UTC
59 points
144 comments5 min readLW link

Notes on Loyalty

David_Gross15 Nov 2020 19:30 UTC
17 points
2 comments8 min readLW link

My con­cerns about the term ‘ra­tio­nal­ist’

JamesCole4 Jun 2009 15:31 UTC
12 points
34 comments2 min readLW link

Richard Dawk­ins TV—Baloney De­tec­tion Kit video

Roko25 Jun 2009 0:27 UTC
2 points
35 comments1 min readLW link

That Thing That Happened

[deleted]18 Dec 2012 12:29 UTC
33 points
85 comments2 min readLW link
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