Also, the antibiotic boom had lessened the fear of the old STDs, all of which were now curable. This, together with the contraceptive pill, was a huge boost to the 1960s sexual revolution, which made the 1970s a period of relaxed attitudes about safe sex. Thus, the 1980s were wholly unprepared for a new STD.
Um, during the 1960s and 1970s old STDs were showing up and coming out of the wood work. The straight community responded to this by stopping and winding down the free-love sexual revolution. The gay community refused to do this and eventually a lethal STD showed up.
The fact that the disease was first detected in the gay community is only attributable to the marginalization they already lived in.
And yet the disease has never broken into the straight community, despite decades of predictions that it was on the verge of doing so.
Nobody would have described the gay experience as “self-destructive” before the AIDS epidemic.
Um, they would describe having homosexual sex as a sin, which in this context means more-or-less the same thing as “self-destructive behavior”. Similar to the way gluttony was considered a sin.
But there is another, more sinister layer of meaning beneath the description of the gay experience as a “self-destructive behavior” that they “don’t want to change.” You’re basically describing them in the same language used to demonize drug addicts, and thereby you’re disrespecting both populations. Addictions involve a physical dependence that impairs proper decision-making, and accusing them of simply not wanting to change goes against the facts and against compassion. By using the same language to describe the gays, you’re falling into the gay-as-a-choice trap, which is not only a myth, but an insult to their intelligence.
The “argument” in this paragraph appears to boil down to “neither gays nor addicts have a choice in the matter; therefore, its wrong to use the same language to describe them”, with a lot of boo lights and emotional language thrown in to distract from the fact that the argument doesn’t make any sense even on its (rather dubious) premises.
Apart from true addictions like nicotine, ordinary people are smart enough to stop doing something that kills them.
Um, basic observation of humanity suggests otherwise.
Also social pressure applied to people doing destructive (or self-destructive) things is a great way to encourage them to stop. Telling people they can’t help but do those things is a terrible way to help them.
Huh. I had not located that hypothesis. However, /u/alienist started posting about two months before Eugine’s last sock /u/Azatoth123 was blocked. So possible, but difficult to tell for sure. I suspect it is more likely that the user is simply someone who shares similar views.
The straight community responded to this by stopping and winding down the free-love sexual revolution.
When did that happen? Only some fanatics created the Moral Majority, but the Actual Majority just ignored them.
the disease has never broken into the straight community
What? What planet are you looking at?
they would describe having homosexual sex as a sin
That’s a different type of argument. The notion of sin rests on assumptions that are alien to facts. An objective description of a self-destructive behavior will need more solid arguments.
a lot of boo lights and emotional language [...] social pressure applied to people doing destructive (or self-destructive) things is a great way to encourage them to stop.
Let me put it in more neutral terms: being gay is not destructive or self-destructive at all. As simple as that. If society wants to minimize harm, it must focus on the specific factors that cause harm. For a concrete example: nobody denies that anal tissues are more delicate and facilitate the transmission of infections. But from there it’s a very long jump to claiming that men loving men is lethal.
There’s a lot less random sex today then there was during the 1970′s. Heck, half the things going on back then would probably qualify as “rape” under the definition being pushed by modern feminists.
the disease has never broken into the straight community
Um, during the 1960s and 1970s old STDs were showing up and coming out of the wood work. The straight community responded to this by stopping and winding down the free-love sexual revolution. The gay community refused to do this and eventually a lethal STD showed up.
And yet the disease has never broken into the straight community, despite decades of predictions that it was on the verge of doing so.
Um, they would describe having homosexual sex as a sin, which in this context means more-or-less the same thing as “self-destructive behavior”. Similar to the way gluttony was considered a sin.
The “argument” in this paragraph appears to boil down to “neither gays nor addicts have a choice in the matter; therefore, its wrong to use the same language to describe them”, with a lot of boo lights and emotional language thrown in to distract from the fact that the argument doesn’t make any sense even on its (rather dubious) premises.
Um, basic observation of humanity suggests otherwise.
Also social pressure applied to people doing destructive (or self-destructive) things is a great way to encourage them to stop. Telling people they can’t help but do those things is a terrible way to help them.
Whoa, déjà vu.
I have a prediction...
EDIT not overwhelmingly likely given further examination.
Huh. I had not located that hypothesis. However, /u/alienist started posting about two months before Eugine’s last sock /u/Azatoth123 was blocked. So possible, but difficult to tell for sure. I suspect it is more likely that the user is simply someone who shares similar views.
When did that happen? Only some fanatics created the Moral Majority, but the Actual Majority just ignored them.
What? What planet are you looking at?
That’s a different type of argument. The notion of sin rests on assumptions that are alien to facts. An objective description of a self-destructive behavior will need more solid arguments.
Let me put it in more neutral terms: being gay is not destructive or self-destructive at all. As simple as that. If society wants to minimize harm, it must focus on the specific factors that cause harm. For a concrete example: nobody denies that anal tissues are more delicate and facilitate the transmission of infections. But from there it’s a very long jump to claiming that men loving men is lethal.
There’s a lot less random sex today then there was during the 1970′s. Heck, half the things going on back then would probably qualify as “rape” under the definition being pushed by modern feminists.
Earth, what planet are you looking at?
Is Africa missing from your planet Earth?
Citation needed.