1: If cryonics is appealing because it potentially saving your life, then not signing up once you have the money is effectively suicide / voluntary euthanasia. The fact that other people could be saved by your organs is true whether or not you are signed up for cryonics—so if your life is worth less to you than 4 or 8 strangers’ lives, you should commit suicide and donate your organs.
If you don’t want to commit suicide to donate organs, you shouldn’t want to avoid cryonics to donate organs.
2: This is not a reason not to do it, it’s a reason you literally currently can’t. So make more money (there are lots of other better sources of how to do this; if you want to delve down this road, reply or PM and I’ll provide more resources).
3: How confident are you that it will happen before you die? Given the number of years of additional life you are buying a chance at by signing up for cryonics, the extra chance at preserving your identity and ‘coming back’ via cryonics may still be worth the extra cash. But that depends on the probabilities you assign to the various relevant factors (chance of singularity during lifetime & chance of cryonics resulting in extended life, mainly).
1) I value my life more than the lives of 4-8 strangers, as demonstrated by the fact I haven’t committed suicide to donate my organs. Based on the reading I have done so far, I can’t realistically assign cryonics a greater than 10% chance of actually working, so the question is whether I value my life (discounted by a factor of 10) more than the lives of 4-8 strangers, which I don’t. If Omega told me cryonics was guaranteed to work, I would sign up.
2) Making money without a high school degree, special skills, or Eliezer-level intelligence is more difficult than I think most highly-trained people realize. I’ll PM you, though.
3) I would assign a very high probability to a Singularity within my lifetime; I would also say I am 85% confident that if the Singularity does not happen in my lifetime, it will not happen. If the 21st century closes without any of the advances we anticipate, that would dramatically increase my estimate that they are impossible.But I’ve conceded to Alexai that even discounting for all this, it is probably still worth it; if I can resolve the other issues I will sign up.
Making money [...] is more difficult than I think most highly-trained people realize.
The cost of a life insurance policy that covers cryonics is, I think, much less expensive than most people realize. I did the math myself recently and I think it came out to, conservatively, $500/year, which I could easily afford on a retail / call center paycheck. It is definitely worth your time to at least look in to the exact cost for you personally. You’re young so you’re probably looking at significantly less than me.
Disclaimer: I’m not signed up either; I’m currently trying to sort out why. Discovering it was that cheap has removed a very major obstacle that I wasn’t aware of, however.
Doing this exercise has really forced me to clarify my thinking on this—you should try it.
I did a little research and it looks like it would be less than $15 a month for me, which removes that objection—except for the fact I can’t buy life insurance until I’m 18.
1: If cryonics is appealing because it potentially saving your life, then not signing up once you have the money is effectively suicide / voluntary euthanasia. The fact that other people could be saved by your organs is true whether or not you are signed up for cryonics—so if your life is worth less to you than 4 or 8 strangers’ lives, you should commit suicide and donate your organs.
If you don’t want to commit suicide to donate organs, you shouldn’t want to avoid cryonics to donate organs.
2: This is not a reason not to do it, it’s a reason you literally currently can’t. So make more money (there are lots of other better sources of how to do this; if you want to delve down this road, reply or PM and I’ll provide more resources).
3: How confident are you that it will happen before you die? Given the number of years of additional life you are buying a chance at by signing up for cryonics, the extra chance at preserving your identity and ‘coming back’ via cryonics may still be worth the extra cash. But that depends on the probabilities you assign to the various relevant factors (chance of singularity during lifetime & chance of cryonics resulting in extended life, mainly).
1) I value my life more than the lives of 4-8 strangers, as demonstrated by the fact I haven’t committed suicide to donate my organs. Based on the reading I have done so far, I can’t realistically assign cryonics a greater than 10% chance of actually working, so the question is whether I value my life (discounted by a factor of 10) more than the lives of 4-8 strangers, which I don’t. If Omega told me cryonics was guaranteed to work, I would sign up.
2) Making money without a high school degree, special skills, or Eliezer-level intelligence is more difficult than I think most highly-trained people realize. I’ll PM you, though.
3) I would assign a very high probability to a Singularity within my lifetime; I would also say I am 85% confident that if the Singularity does not happen in my lifetime, it will not happen. If the 21st century closes without any of the advances we anticipate, that would dramatically increase my estimate that they are impossible.But I’ve conceded to Alexai that even discounting for all this, it is probably still worth it; if I can resolve the other issues I will sign up.
The cost of a life insurance policy that covers cryonics is, I think, much less expensive than most people realize. I did the math myself recently and I think it came out to, conservatively, $500/year, which I could easily afford on a retail / call center paycheck. It is definitely worth your time to at least look in to the exact cost for you personally. You’re young so you’re probably looking at significantly less than me.
Disclaimer: I’m not signed up either; I’m currently trying to sort out why. Discovering it was that cheap has removed a very major obstacle that I wasn’t aware of, however.
Doing this exercise has really forced me to clarify my thinking on this—you should try it. I did a little research and it looks like it would be less than $15 a month for me, which removes that objection—except for the fact I can’t buy life insurance until I’m 18.