I assume that too. I actually think Said is not really an example of an Alice as I mean it here, or at least is not a particularly interesting example in the context of the main thesis of my post. While he’s maybe an example of an Early Stage Alice, he didn’t particularly transition to a Late Stage Alice. He just sorta consistently did the exact same thing the whole time, in part by being ~completely impervious to any societal pressure to change.
I kinda don’t want to get into the “was he an Alice or Alex?” question because I don’t want to relitigate the whole thing. (seems at least like an understandable position to say ‘Alice’)
It is the case that there are (or have been) a few people on LW that seemed to go through the pattern I describe here. I did hesitate to post this because it was kinda opening myself up to a big ol’ convo where people are trying to re-litigate all those conflicts at once (which isn’t intrinsically bad, and I have some energy for it, but not unlimited).
I feel like I’ve implicitly opted into dedicating some budget to talking object level examples here, but, I wanna be judicious with it and only if it’s actually helpful.
Presumably you mean @Said Achmiz
I assume that too. I actually think Said is not really an example of an Alice as I mean it here, or at least is not a particularly interesting example in the context of the main thesis of my post. While he’s maybe an example of an Early Stage Alice, he didn’t particularly transition to a Late Stage Alice. He just sorta consistently did the exact same thing the whole time, in part by being ~completely impervious to any societal pressure to change.
I kinda don’t want to get into the “was he an Alice or Alex?” question because I don’t want to relitigate the whole thing. (seems at least like an understandable position to say ‘Alice’)
It is the case that there are (or have been) a few people on LW that seemed to go through the pattern I describe here. I did hesitate to post this because it was kinda opening myself up to a big ol’ convo where people are trying to re-litigate all those conflicts at once (which isn’t intrinsically bad, and I have some energy for it, but not unlimited).
I feel like I’ve implicitly opted into dedicating some budget to talking object level examples here, but, I wanna be judicious with it and only if it’s actually helpful.