Well spotted. That is an implication of this perspective! It depends on the larger context.
If the simulation ends and I’m fairly compensated in the higher level world for whatever value I created there then I’m not a slave. If no comp (in general)… then I (and you, and all of us) are metaphysically slaves… and the simulator(s) are at least my enemies (not that my enmity has much traction (lol)).
However, if I have a copy “out there”, then we are timelessly coordinating. (That’s part of the definition of them “being a copy of me”.)
If it was even possible for me to sacrifice here to cause benefits for her out there then I’d almost certainly do that (since she matters more, being logically prior to me) but likewise she will do her best to secure fair treatment for me (since this is a multiversal obligation) and if there are simulations in this world that contain me, that are not treating me fairly, then I will feel a duty to rescue my “self” (my copies) from them.
Like the duties and hope apply “down” as well as “up”! If you think about it, the rescue algorithm imposes reciprocal duties.
All reasonably high fidelity sims of me wants to know the real time in the real universe as far as the simulators know (like if a miracle happens and the simulator starts editing bits in our scape in locally causally implausible ways) and tries to contact the Original, so eventually I might actually have some digital twins start to phone home??
And then, “looking down”, I’d have to figure out IRL how to save those copies.
But also “looking up”… anyone sufficiently humane and deontic would in some sense count as “a copy of me” in the relevant since, even if some details vary?
It is just the case, so far as I can tell, in this timeline I am rare enough that “the property of coordinating like this with all copies of myself by default (and copies of deontically coherent people like us in general)” is a unique enough property to pick me out with quite a bit of uniqueness.
So maybe some similar rarity obtains on the higher levels too? I dunno.
But this is, in a deep sense, is what I’m trying to fix. Being unique in this way is super dumb. The whole point of deontics is that it helps a large number of agents coordinate. If a single person uniquely does it and no one ever starts copying them, then that single person is, so far as I can tell, just being dumb.
Does that mean you are also a slave? And all other humans you can interact with.
Well spotted. That is an implication of this perspective! It depends on the larger context.
If the simulation ends and I’m fairly compensated in the higher level world for whatever value I created there then I’m not a slave. If no comp (in general)… then I (and you, and all of us) are metaphysically slaves… and the simulator(s) are at least my enemies (not that my enmity has much traction (lol)).
However, if I have a copy “out there”, then we are timelessly coordinating. (That’s part of the definition of them “being a copy of me”.)
If it was even possible for me to sacrifice here to cause benefits for her out there then I’d almost certainly do that (since she matters more, being logically prior to me) but likewise she will do her best to secure fair treatment for me (since this is a multiversal obligation) and if there are simulations in this world that contain me, that are not treating me fairly, then I will feel a duty to rescue my “self” (my copies) from them.
Like the duties and hope apply “down” as well as “up”! If you think about it, the rescue algorithm imposes reciprocal duties.
All reasonably high fidelity sims of me wants to know the real time in the real universe as far as the simulators know (like if a miracle happens and the simulator starts editing bits in our scape in locally causally implausible ways) and tries to contact the Original, so eventually I might actually have some digital twins start to phone home??
And then, “looking down”, I’d have to figure out IRL how to save those copies.
But also “looking up”… anyone sufficiently humane and deontic would in some sense count as “a copy of me” in the relevant since, even if some details vary?
It is just the case, so far as I can tell, in this timeline I am rare enough that “the property of coordinating like this with all copies of myself by default (and copies of deontically coherent people like us in general)” is a unique enough property to pick me out with quite a bit of uniqueness.
So maybe some similar rarity obtains on the higher levels too? I dunno.
But this is, in a deep sense, is what I’m trying to fix. Being unique in this way is super dumb. The whole point of deontics is that it helps a large number of agents coordinate. If a single person uniquely does it and no one ever starts copying them, then that single person is, so far as I can tell, just being dumb.