In general, it’s not strange at all for A and B to both agree completely with C, but disagree with each other. For example, if C says “Pie is yummy!”, B says “Pie is yummy and blueberry is the best!” and A says “Pie is yummy and cherry is the best!”
In this case, I disagree with your assertion that EY does not believe that Pebblesorter morality is inferior to human morality, an assertion fubarobfusco does not make.
I do think Eliezer is saying that Pebblesorter morality is inferior to human morality, specifically insofar as the only thing that “inferior” can refer to in this sense is also “h-inferior” — all the inferiorness that we know how to talk about is inferiorness from a human perspective, because hey, that’s what perspective we use.
I think I agree with you, which is strange because it looks like TheOtherDave also agrees with you, but disagrees with me.
In general, it’s not strange at all for A and B to both agree completely with C, but disagree with each other. For example, if C says “Pie is yummy!”, B says “Pie is yummy and blueberry is the best!” and A says “Pie is yummy and cherry is the best!”
In this case, I disagree with your assertion that EY does not believe that Pebblesorter morality is inferior to human morality, an assertion fubarobfusco does not make.
I do think Eliezer is saying that Pebblesorter morality is inferior to human morality, specifically insofar as the only thing that “inferior” can refer to in this sense is also “h-inferior” — all the inferiorness that we know how to talk about is inferiorness from a human perspective, because hey, that’s what perspective we use.
(nods) I agree. If Oscar_Cunningham agrees as well, then we all agree.
I also agree. Yay!