noticing the asymmetry in who you feel moved to complain about.
I think I basically complain when I see opinions that feel importantly wrong to me?
When I’m in very LessWrong-shaped spaces, that often looks like arguing in favor of “really shitty low-dignity approaches to getting the AIs to do our homework for us are >>1% to turn out okay, I think there’s lots of mileage in getting slightly less incompetent at the current trajectory”, and I don’t really harp on the “would be nice if everyone just stopped” thing the same way I don’t harp on the “2+2=4” thing, except to do virtue signaling to my interlocutor about not being an e/acc so I don’t get dismissed as being in the Bad Tribe Outgroup.
When I’m in spaces with people who just think working on AI is cool, I’m arguing about the “holy shit this is an insane dangerous technology and you are not oriented to it with anything like a reasonable amount of caution” thing, and I don’t really harp on the “some chance we make it out okay” bit except to signal that I’m not a 99.999% doomer so I don’t get dismissed as being in the Bad Tribe Outgroup.
I think the asymmetry complaint is very reasonable for writing that is aimed at a broad audience, TBC, but when people are writing LessWrong posts I think it’s basically fine to take the shared points of agreement for granted and spend most of your words on the points of divergence. (Though I do think it’s good practice to signpost that agreement at least a little.)
I think I basically complain when I see opinions that feel importantly wrong to me?
When I’m in very LessWrong-shaped spaces, that often looks like arguing in favor of “really shitty low-dignity approaches to getting the AIs to do our homework for us are >>1% to turn out okay, I think there’s lots of mileage in getting slightly less incompetent at the current trajectory”, and I don’t really harp on the “would be nice if everyone just stopped” thing the same way I don’t harp on the “2+2=4” thing, except to do virtue signaling to my interlocutor about not being an e/acc so I don’t get dismissed as being in the Bad Tribe Outgroup.
When I’m in spaces with people who just think working on AI is cool, I’m arguing about the “holy shit this is an insane dangerous technology and you are not oriented to it with anything like a reasonable amount of caution” thing, and I don’t really harp on the “some chance we make it out okay” bit except to signal that I’m not a 99.999% doomer so I don’t get dismissed as being in the Bad Tribe Outgroup.
I think the asymmetry complaint is very reasonable for writing that is aimed at a broad audience, TBC, but when people are writing LessWrong posts I think it’s basically fine to take the shared points of agreement for granted and spend most of your words on the points of divergence. (Though I do think it’s good practice to signpost that agreement at least a little.)
nod, fwiw I didn’t have this complaint about you.