FWIW, I get a bunch of value from reading Buck’s and Ryan’s public comments here, and I think many people do. It’s possible that Buck and Ryan should spend less time commenting because they have high opportunity cost, but I think it would be pretty sad if their commenting moved to private channels.
Note I am thinking of a pretty specific subset of comments where Buck is engaging with people who he views as “extremely unreasonable MIRI partisans”. I’m not primarily recommending that Buck move those comments to private channels, usually my recommendation is to not bother commenting on that at all. If there does happen to be some useful kernel to discuss, then I’d recommend he do that elsewhere and then write something public with the actually useful stuff.
FYI I got value from the last round of arguments between Buck/Ryan and Eliezer (in The Problem), where I definitely agree Eliezer was being obtuse/annoying. I learned more useful things about Buck’s worldview from that one than Eliezer’s (nonzero from Eliezer’s tho), and I think that was good for the commons more broadly.
I don’t know if it was a better use of time than whatever else Buck would have done that day, but, I appreciated it.
(I’m not sure what to do about the fact that Being Triggered is such a powerful catalyst for arguing, it does distort what conversations we find ourselves having, but, I think it increases the total amount of public argumentation that exists, fairly significantly)
FWIW, I get a bunch of value from reading Buck’s and Ryan’s public comments here, and I think many people do. It’s possible that Buck and Ryan should spend less time commenting because they have high opportunity cost, but I think it would be pretty sad if their commenting moved to private channels.
Note I am thinking of a pretty specific subset of comments where Buck is engaging with people who he views as “extremely unreasonable MIRI partisans”. I’m not primarily recommending that Buck move those comments to private channels, usually my recommendation is to not bother commenting on that at all. If there does happen to be some useful kernel to discuss, then I’d recommend he do that elsewhere and then write something public with the actually useful stuff.
FYI I got value from the last round of arguments between Buck/Ryan and Eliezer (in The Problem), where I definitely agree Eliezer was being obtuse/annoying. I learned more useful things about Buck’s worldview from that one than Eliezer’s (nonzero from Eliezer’s tho), and I think that was good for the commons more broadly.
I don’t know if it was a better use of time than whatever else Buck would have done that day, but, I appreciated it.
(I’m not sure what to do about the fact that Being Triggered is such a powerful catalyst for arguing, it does distort what conversations we find ourselves having, but, I think it increases the total amount of public argumentation that exists, fairly significantly)