Classic motte and baileys are situations where the motte is not representative of the bailey.
Defending that the universe probably has a god or some deity, and that we can feel connected to it, and then turning around and making extreme demands of people’s sex lives and financial support of the church when that is accepted, is a central motte and bailey.
Pointing out that if anyone builds it using current techniques the it would kill everyone, is not far apart from the policy claim to shut it down. It’s not some weird technicality that would of course never come up. Most of humanity is fully unaware that this is a concern and will happily sign off on massive ML training runs that would kill us all—as would many people in tech. This is because have little-to-no awareness of the likely threat! So it is highly relevant, as there is no simple setting for not that, and it takes a massive amount of work to get from this current situation to a good one, and is not a largely irrelevant but highly defensible claim.
Classic motte and baileys are situations where the motte is not representative of the bailey.
Defending that the universe probably has a god or some deity, and that we can feel connected to it, and then turning around and making extreme demands of people’s sex lives and financial support of the church when that is accepted, is a central motte and bailey.
Pointing out that if anyone builds it using current techniques the it would kill everyone, is not far apart from the policy claim to shut it down. It’s not some weird technicality that would of course never come up. Most of humanity is fully unaware that this is a concern and will happily sign off on massive ML training runs that would kill us all—as would many people in tech. This is because have little-to-no awareness of the likely threat! So it is highly relevant, as there is no simple setting for not that, and it takes a massive amount of work to get from this current situation to a good one, and is not a largely irrelevant but highly defensible claim.
The comment you’re replying to is explaining why the motte is not representative of the bailey in this case (in their view).
Yeah that’s fair.