Presumably, from behind the Rawlsian veil, you might accept this deal in exchange for avoiding dystopia. I have not read the Dath Ilan glowfic, but I infer they are genetically/memetically engineered to me much more psychologically robust than us.
Also note, we do much worse to children all the time.
But yeah, it’s sort of icky to live in a town where all the adults are conspiring to lie to you, but the vast majority of children in this world are not being lied to. And I think they made a lot of money, presumably the amount of money this rather-competent society predicted would be their “cheerful price”.
I would certainly accept such treatment for 2 million dollars, for example.
Though, this fellow seems to enjoy having this story to tell—so perhaps his cheerful price was rather low!
I would certainly accept such treatment for 2 million dollars, for example.
On earth, 200 million and I might consider it, though it sure wouldn‘t be my cheerful price. On dath ilan, not for any sum. Even fiat access to all economic output wouldn‘t be worth it.
And I think they made a lot of money, presumably the amount of money this rather-competent society predicted would be their “cheerful price”.
If you try to solve this with prediction, and have any kind of feedback mechanism in place where the project gets docked money in proportion to how much predicted cheerful prices diverged from occasionally measured actual cheerful prices, I expect your market to tell you that this project is prohibitively costly, because you can‘t get the chance of including children like me small enough.
In addition, I don‘t know about you, but I would have objections to this situation even if a perfect/extremely good prediction mechanism was in place. Correlating events with my actual preferences is one reason I want people to ask for my consent before doing things to me, and perfect prediction takes care of that. But it is not the only reason. I also value being the person with final say inherently.
So if I were to be denied my right to deny consent, and told in the same sentence that of course I‘m a sapient being too and my preferences matter, it would taste rather bitter.
Also note, we do much worse to children all the time.
Yes, but most of it doesn’t happen because approximately everyone in the world got together and shared all their knowledge and thought really hard about it and talked about it and then still decided it was a good idea.
Presumably, from behind the Rawlsian veil, you might accept this deal in exchange for avoiding dystopia. I have not read the Dath Ilan glowfic, but I infer they are genetically/memetically engineered to me much more psychologically robust than us.
Also note, we do much worse to children all the time.
But yeah, it’s sort of icky to live in a town where all the adults are conspiring to lie to you, but the vast majority of children in this world are not being lied to. And I think they made a lot of money, presumably the amount of money this rather-competent society predicted would be their “cheerful price”.
I would certainly accept such treatment for 2 million dollars, for example.
Though, this fellow seems to enjoy having this story to tell—so perhaps his cheerful price was rather low!
On earth, 200 million and I might consider it, though it sure wouldn‘t be my cheerful price. On dath ilan, not for any sum. Even fiat access to all economic output wouldn‘t be worth it.
If you try to solve this with prediction, and have any kind of feedback mechanism in place where the project gets docked money in proportion to how much predicted cheerful prices diverged from occasionally measured actual cheerful prices, I expect your market to tell you that this project is prohibitively costly, because you can‘t get the chance of including children like me small enough.
In addition, I don‘t know about you, but I would have objections to this situation even if a perfect/extremely good prediction mechanism was in place. Correlating events with my actual preferences is one reason I want people to ask for my consent before doing things to me, and perfect prediction takes care of that. But it is not the only reason. I also value being the person with final say inherently.
So if I were to be denied my right to deny consent, and told in the same sentence that of course I‘m a sapient being too and my preferences matter, it would taste rather bitter.
I’m wondering if I would accept a price even if I got to opt in to an experiment.
Might be, to overthrow a government.
Yes, but most of it doesn’t happen because approximately everyone in the world got together and shared all their knowledge and thought really hard about it and talked about it and then still decided it was a good idea.