I mostly meant by this “we shouldn’t pretend there is at present already a widely accepted rule to not do this under any circumstance”
I dunno, I expect strong majority to agree it’s essentially “bribery with extra steps”, and to acknowledge “bribery is bad” (including with this degree of extra steps) as a widely accepted rule.
I also think that it’s not that hard to imagine situations where you should do this anyway. Most obviously, you should do it anyway when there are other reasons that are more important for helping the relevant person, or from the outside you can’t tell whether this is the actual reason or you are misunderstanding the nature of the reasoning.
Sure, this is true, but vacuous. Of course widely accepted rules can be overridden in unusual circumstances. Oskar Schindler offered and received many bribes and I expect you agree this was the right call. I expect I’m unlikely to ever encounter an actual exception to the rule in real life rather than in thought experiment land. (The reason I asked if you had a specific case in mind is that I was unable to quickly imagine a plausible I-might-hit-this-in-real-life counterexample.) And yes, literally all rules including this one are necessarily limited by your confidence that you’re actually interpreting the situation correctly.
I dunno, I expect strong majority to agree it’s essentially “bribery with extra steps”, and to acknowledge “bribery is bad” (including with this degree of extra steps) as a widely accepted rule.
Sure, this is true, but vacuous. Of course widely accepted rules can be overridden in unusual circumstances. Oskar Schindler offered and received many bribes and I expect you agree this was the right call. I expect I’m unlikely to ever encounter an actual exception to the rule in real life rather than in thought experiment land. (The reason I asked if you had a specific case in mind is that I was unable to quickly imagine a plausible I-might-hit-this-in-real-life counterexample.) And yes, literally all rules including this one are necessarily limited by your confidence that you’re actually interpreting the situation correctly.