The information environment is also more adversarial nowadays than what it was before, so the apparent deficiencies of LW need to be adjusted to the new environmental baseline to allow for a fair comparison. None of the critics, or opponents, seems to have done this, though this is almost never done for any type of criticism. Perhaps that says more about criticism, and critics themselves, than what they critique.
So it may very well be that, relative to its environment, 2022 LW is actually superior to that of 2012 LW. Especially as the moderators have done a good job with maintaining the publicly accessible focus.
This is actually a very serious problem that will most likely get worse regardless of what galaxy-brained solutions are thought up and implemented. It’s the sort of thing where no matter how deep you burrow down, someone will always be able to dig out your hole until they ferret you out, because digging a hole leaves a trail by default (the tunnel). It really begs the question of whether accepting continued decline on lesswrong.com is worth it to avoid the risk of making the issue even worse.
But I’m happy to work on solutions nonetheless, and I’m sure a lot of others are too. It’s just that it has to be via direct messages instead of public posts, and it really ought to involve in-person communication taking the place of online communication. And we have to know that others exist who also care, instead of being emotionally filled with vague doubt that anyone is out there and that anything is worth doing.
It does seem highly doubtful true harmony will be established on the Earth in our lifetime. So any feasible solutions may indeed have to undergo a long period of development in private.
This is actually a very serious problem that will most likely get worse regardless of what galaxy-brained solutions are thought up and implemented. It’s the sort of thing where no matter how deep you burrow down, someone will always be able to dig out your hole until they ferret you out, because digging a hole leaves a trail by default (the tunnel). It really begs the question of whether accepting continued decline on lesswrong.com is worth it to avoid the risk of making the issue even worse.
But I’m happy to work on solutions nonetheless, and I’m sure a lot of others are too. It’s just that it has to be via direct messages instead of public posts, and it really ought to involve in-person communication taking the place of online communication. And we have to know that others exist who also care, instead of being emotionally filled with vague doubt that anyone is out there and that anything is worth doing.
It does seem highly doubtful true harmony will be established on the Earth in our lifetime. So any feasible solutions may indeed have to undergo a long period of development in private.