If the idea is dangerous in the first place (which is very unlikely), it is only dangerous to people who understand it, because understanding it makes you vulnerable. The better you understand it and the more you think about it, the more vulnerable you become. In hindsight, I would prefer to never have read about the idea in question.
I don’t think this is a big issue, considering the tiny probability that the scenario will ever occur, but I am glad that discussing it continues to be discouraged and would appreciate it if people stopped needlessly resurrecting it over and over again.
If the idea is dangerous in the first place (which is very unlikely), it is only dangerous to people who understand it, because understanding it makes you vulnerable.
This strikes me as tautological and/or confusing definitions. I’m happy to agree that the idea is dangerous to people who think it is dangerous, but I don’t think it’s dangerous and I think I understand it. To make an analogy, I understand the concept of hell but don’t think it’s dangerous, and so the concept of hell does not bother me. Does the fact that I do not have the born-again Christian’s fear of hell mean that they understand it and I don’t? I don’t see why it should.
I can’t figure out a way to explain this further without repropagating the idea, which I will not do. It is likely that there are one or more pieces of the idea which you are not familiar with or do not understand, and I envy your epistemological position.
Yes, but the concept of hell is easier to understand. From what I have read in the discussions, I have no idea how the Basilisk is supposed to work, while it’s quite easy to understand how hell is supposed to work.
I would prefer to never have read about the idea in question.
If you people are this worried about reality, why don’t you work to support creating a Paperclip maximizer? It would have a lot of fun doing what it wants to do and everyone else would quickly die. Nobody ever after would have to fear what could possible happen to them at some point.
If you people want to try to turn the universe into a better place, at whatever cost, then why do you worry or wish to not know about potential obstacles? Both is irrational.
The forbidden topic seems to be a dangerous Ugh field for a lot of people here. You have to decide what you want and then follow through on it. Any self-inflicted pain just adds to the overall negative.
The basilisk idea has no positive value. All it does is cause those who understand it to bear a very low probability of suffering incredible disutility at some point in the future. Explaining this idea to someone does them about as much good as slashing their tires.
The basilisk idea has no positive value. All it does is cause those who understand it to bear a very low probability of suffering incredible disutility at some point in the future.
I understand that but do not see that the description applies to the idea in question, insofar as it is in my opinion no more probable than fiction and that any likelihood is being outweighed by opposing ideas. There are however other well-founded ideas, free speech and transparency, that are being ignored. I also believe that people would benefit from talking about it and possible overcome and ignore it subsequently.
But I’m tired of discussing this topic and will do you the favor to shut up about it. But remember that I haven’t been the one who started this thread. It was Roko and whoever asked to delete Roko’s comment.
If the idea is dangerous in the first place (which is very unlikely), it is only dangerous to people who understand it, because understanding it makes you vulnerable. The better you understand it and the more you think about it, the more vulnerable you become. In hindsight, I would prefer to never have read about the idea in question.
I don’t think this is a big issue, considering the tiny probability that the scenario will ever occur, but I am glad that discussing it continues to be discouraged and would appreciate it if people stopped needlessly resurrecting it over and over again.
This strikes me as tautological and/or confusing definitions. I’m happy to agree that the idea is dangerous to people who think it is dangerous, but I don’t think it’s dangerous and I think I understand it. To make an analogy, I understand the concept of hell but don’t think it’s dangerous, and so the concept of hell does not bother me. Does the fact that I do not have the born-again Christian’s fear of hell mean that they understand it and I don’t? I don’t see why it should.
I can’t figure out a way to explain this further without repropagating the idea, which I will not do. It is likely that there are one or more pieces of the idea which you are not familiar with or do not understand, and I envy your epistemological position.
Yes, but the concept of hell is easier to understand. From what I have read in the discussions, I have no idea how the Basilisk is supposed to work, while it’s quite easy to understand how hell is supposed to work.
Upvoted, agree strongly.
Upvoted, agree strongly.
If you people are this worried about reality, why don’t you work to support creating a Paperclip maximizer? It would have a lot of fun doing what it wants to do and everyone else would quickly die. Nobody ever after would have to fear what could possible happen to them at some point.
If you people want to try to turn the universe into a better place, at whatever cost, then why do you worry or wish to not know about potential obstacles? Both is irrational.
The forbidden topic seems to be a dangerous Ugh field for a lot of people here. You have to decide what you want and then follow through on it. Any self-inflicted pain just adds to the overall negative.
You do not understand what you are talking about.
The basilisk idea has no positive value. All it does is cause those who understand it to bear a very low probability of suffering incredible disutility at some point in the future. Explaining this idea to someone does them about as much good as slashing their tires.
I understand that but do not see that the description applies to the idea in question, insofar as it is in my opinion no more probable than fiction and that any likelihood is being outweighed by opposing ideas. There are however other well-founded ideas, free speech and transparency, that are being ignored. I also believe that people would benefit from talking about it and possible overcome and ignore it subsequently.
But I’m tired of discussing this topic and will do you the favor to shut up about it. But remember that I haven’t been the one who started this thread. It was Roko and whoever asked to delete Roko’s comment.