Biggest disagreement I have with him is that, from my perspective, is that he understands that the optimization deck stacks against us, but he does not understand the degree to which the optimization deck is stacked against us or the extent to which this ramps up and diversifies and changes its sources as capabilities ramp up, and thus thinks many things could work that I don’t see as having much chance of working. I also don’t think he’s thinking enough about what type and degree of alignment would ‘be enough’ to survive the resulting Phase 2.
I’m not committing to it, but if you wrote up concrete details here, I expect I’d engage with it.
Thanks! I’ve seen various attempts to articulate different aspects of this but I may be able to find a better way to put it, and hopefully it would at least help you understand the position better.
Perhaps a podcast discussion between you two would be interesting and/or productive. Or perhaps a Slack discussion that turns into a post (sort of like this):
Thank you for reminding me on this, I need to keep at it. I’ve been working on getting this into written form but the exercise demands clarity in various places in ways that actually make it really hard, also useful. So it’s taking a while.
Once I get that right, I’m hoping we can chat—we’ve done so before and I think it went well.
I’m not committing to it, but if you wrote up concrete details here, I expect I’d engage with it.
Thanks! I’ve seen various attempts to articulate different aspects of this but I may be able to find a better way to put it, and hopefully it would at least help you understand the position better.
Perhaps a podcast discussion between you two would be interesting and/or productive. Or perhaps a Slack discussion that turns into a post (sort of like this):
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/JdGuqg7ifRwPiirCe/wentworth-and-larsen-on-buying-time
If you’re interested, I would be happy to moderate or help find a suitable moderator.
Thank you for reminding me on this, I need to keep at it. I’ve been working on getting this into written form but the exercise demands clarity in various places in ways that actually make it really hard, also useful. So it’s taking a while.
Once I get that right, I’m hoping we can chat—we’ve done so before and I think it went well.