But also, I think you might find the people at the sports bar less contemptible. Most people are not trying to play an intellectual game or pretending to play an intellectual game. They’re just hanging out, and doing human social things, and having fun. Their “beliefs” are mostly just not very relevant to anything, including themselves, most of the time.
Personally, I happen to also find a lot of that kind of lame, but also a lot of it has value on its own terms.
There’s a legitimate frame, or standard, by which it is good. It’s part of what’s cool and interesting or meaningful in the world.
This is in contrast to some activities (like the poor epistemic practices described in this post) that also have some frame by which they’re evaluated as good—but for which I contest the legitimacy of that frame.
So, I broadly agree with all of this.
But also, I think you might find the people at the sports bar less contemptible. Most people are not trying to play an intellectual game or pretending to play an intellectual game. They’re just hanging out, and doing human social things, and having fun. Their “beliefs” are mostly just not very relevant to anything, including themselves, most of the time.
Personally, I happen to also find a lot of that kind of lame, but also a lot of it has value on its own terms.
Can you say more about what you mean by the phrase “has value on its own terms”?
There’s a legitimate frame, or standard, by which it is good. It’s part of what’s cool and interesting or meaningful in the world.
This is in contrast to some activities (like the poor epistemic practices described in this post) that also have some frame by which they’re evaluated as good—but for which I contest the legitimacy of that frame.