The categorization seems very weird. The word clusters basically sound like you’d be describing the same group in an out-group context, but would either want to frame them in a generally positive and inoffensive or a somewhat suspicious light. I have a hard time seeing this as an actual actionable classification and not a framing trick.
I’ve got no idea whatsoever if the event is a good idea or not. This whole post seems a bit arbitrary for such a potential comment thread can of worms though.
The categorization seems very weird. The word clusters basically sound like you’d be describing the same group in an out-group context, but would either want to frame them in a generally positive and inoffensive or a somewhat suspicious light.
Here’s what these word-clusters suggest to me:
Liberal/Secular/Scientific: age 30-60, works at a university, thinks global warming is a more urgent problem than UFAI.
Libertarian/Atheist/Technophile: age 15-30, works as a programmer/reads Less Wrong from parents’ basement, thinks UFAI is more urgent than global warming.
...in other words, basically a status classification.
The categorization seems very weird. The word clusters basically sound like you’d be describing the same group in an out-group context, but would either want to frame them in a generally positive and inoffensive or a somewhat suspicious light. I have a hard time seeing this as an actual actionable classification and not a framing trick.
I’ve got no idea whatsoever if the event is a good idea or not. This whole post seems a bit arbitrary for such a potential comment thread can of worms though.
Here’s what these word-clusters suggest to me:
Liberal/Secular/Scientific: age 30-60, works at a university, thinks global warming is a more urgent problem than UFAI.
Libertarian/Atheist/Technophile: age 15-30, works as a programmer/reads Less Wrong from parents’ basement, thinks UFAI is more urgent than global warming.
...in other words, basically a status classification.
I’m guessing magfrump is basing his distinction on this comment by Will Newsome.
I was.
Interesting, those weren’t the clusters that came to my mind, which suggests that they’re not a great match to the community.
Indeed; I don’t fit into either of them myself.
Interesting. I would think that technophile would if anything be people who aren’t worried about UFAI.
In this context the point is more that they consider near-term AGI to be plausible.
The bit about UFAI vs global warming is rather significant beyond status.
Yes; it would be very nice if the status of beliefs were perfectly correlated with their accuracy.
I’ve changed the phrasing and removed the clusters.
It didn’t even occur to me as a status classification; although reading through comments makes your perspective obvious.