I meant that calling it memetic weapon makes it sound like some people would like nobody to know about the memetic weapon, so we should come look at it before it’s censored.
I’m not talking about the use of the memetic weapon/outgroup card, I’m talking about the term itself. I don’t want it to be called memetic if nobody actually has an extraordinary reason to censor it.
We both agree about your first paragraph. This whole thread, I never thought someone wants to put it on a black list. Calling it memetic weapon sounds like someone wants to put it on a blacklist. By the Streisand effect, this makes the term clickbait. I keep rephrasing myself and not getting through :(.
I think the area of disagreement we have is that you see it as unrelated and therefore clickbait-y, and I see it as very effectively pointing to the theme of the conversation and therefore not clickbait-y.
The weapon isn’t strictly speaking a list of phrases people want blacklisted, but it does correlate pretty strongly. I expect that if you were to identify a case of someone using the memetic weapon, and then ask the person who used it if they thought the phrase which spurred them to use it should be blacklisted, they would often say yes.
By your description, the connotation is chosen perfectly. The point of the memetic weapon is censoring people against whom it is deployed.
The effect you mention is a contributing factor to the moving-to-other-communities-with-bad-norms outcome that ioannes_shade describes.
I meant that calling it memetic weapon makes it sound like some people would like nobody to know about the memetic weapon, so we should come look at it before it’s censored.
I’m not talking about the use of the memetic weapon/outgroup card, I’m talking about the term itself. I don’t want it to be called memetic if nobody actually has an extraordinary reason to censor it.
I don’t think anyone is motivated to explicitly censor talking about the memetic weapon (by putting it on a blacklist or something).
But I do think there’s a good chance that memetic weaponry gets deployed against discussion about the memetic weapon.
We both agree about your first paragraph. This whole thread, I never thought someone wants to put it on a black list. Calling it memetic weapon sounds like someone wants to put it on a blacklist. By the Streisand effect, this makes the term clickbait. I keep rephrasing myself and not getting through :(.
I think the area of disagreement we have is that you see it as unrelated and therefore clickbait-y, and I see it as very effectively pointing to the theme of the conversation and therefore not clickbait-y.
The weapon isn’t strictly speaking a list of phrases people want blacklisted, but it does correlate pretty strongly. I expect that if you were to identify a case of someone using the memetic weapon, and then ask the person who used it if they thought the phrase which spurred them to use it should be blacklisted, they would often say yes.
Perhaps the crux here is how bad we think clickbait-y titles are.
I think clickbait-y titles are bad if the article’s content is low quality. I don’t think they’re bad otherwise.
There are other forms of censorship which are worrisome, though softer than a blacklist.