Ch. 58 shows that Quirrell expected the Auror to dodge, and had plans in case he wouldn’t be able to dodge. Harry would have been royally pissed that Quirrell tried, right up until Quirrell says exactly what he said to Harry when confronted about it later. And hell, if his explanation worked when Harry was that far into believing Quirrell was evil, it would have definitely worked immediately after the fact.
Ch. 58 shows that Quirrell expected the Auror to dodge
No it doesn’t. It shows that Quirrel knows what to say in response to being accused of trying to kill someone to make it look like that wasn’t actually his intention.
Given that AK is an Unforgivable, and according to canon the caster must ‘mean it’ to cast such a spell, I’m fairly confident that Quirrel’s explanation is a lie, though I will admit that I haven’t checked the exact mechanism for that kind of spell failure—if a not-meaning-it casting of AK would produce a similar visual effect, he could be telling the truth, and it could have been significantly safer than it looked—but in that case, why would he claim that he was intending to move the auror, rather than explaining that the spell was actually harmless?
Also, I doubt that when Voldemort kills some random mook he’s feeling personal hate towards him. And IIRC in canon Quirrelmort (ETA: no, not him, another Evil Teacher) kills some lab animals in class to demonstrate the killing curse; I’m sure he didn’t hate them. The requirement for hatred is a sort of “Negative Emotions == Dark Side” thing.
That’s interesting. Rational!Harry might not be well-versed in subtleties of casting unforgivables, so Quirrel’s explanation might look more plausible to him.
No it doesn’t. It shows that Quirrel knows what to say in response to being accused of trying to kill someone to make it look like that wasn’t actually his intention.
That he had an excuse ought to be evidence that he was intending to cast the Avada Kedavra and miss. The story makes more sense that way, too: Consider what would have happened if Quirrell had actually killed the Auror, without some crazy reaction from Harry’s magic. Now consider what would have happened if Quirrell had just barely missed. The first option has Quirrell and Harry in an emotional, full-blown argument in the middle of Azkaban with Bellatrix watching the Dark Lord berating a henchman for killing someone, and they haven’t escaped yet. The second option has protestations from Harry quickly squashed and a ready escape, with Bellatrix seeing the Dark Lord mock his henchman for failing to kill, leaving behind an Auror who will tell everyone they are looking for a phenomenally powerful sallow-faced wizard all by himself, not a professor and a student.
You’re misinterpretating the parent comment’s argument. It didn’t say Quirrel’s excuse was evidence he was intending to kill the Auror. It said it didn’t SHOW he wasn’t intending to kill him.
There’s a difference between ‘shows’ and ‘is evidence for’. I’d say that “shows” typically means “is CONCLUSIVE evidence for”.
That Quirrel had an excuse IS evidence he was not intending to kill the Auror—of course it’s evidence for that. It’s just not CONCLUSIVE evidence for that.
leaving behind an Auror who will tell everyone they are looking for a phenomenally powerful sallow-faced wizard all by himself, not a professor and a student.
Leaving behind a memory-wiped Auror who has no idea what happened.
Ch. 58 shows that Quirrell expected the Auror to dodge, and had plans in case he wouldn’t be able to dodge. Harry would have been royally pissed that Quirrell tried, right up until Quirrell says exactly what he said to Harry when confronted about it later. And hell, if his explanation worked when Harry was that far into believing Quirrell was evil, it would have definitely worked immediately after the fact.
No it doesn’t. It shows that Quirrel knows what to say in response to being accused of trying to kill someone to make it look like that wasn’t actually his intention.
Given that AK is an Unforgivable, and according to canon the caster must ‘mean it’ to cast such a spell, I’m fairly confident that Quirrel’s explanation is a lie, though I will admit that I haven’t checked the exact mechanism for that kind of spell failure—if a not-meaning-it casting of AK would produce a similar visual effect, he could be telling the truth, and it could have been significantly safer than it looked—but in that case, why would he claim that he was intending to move the auror, rather than explaining that the spell was actually harmless?
According to canon, the spell must be cast with hatred. I’m not sure it has to be cast with the intent to be lethal.
Also, I doubt that when Voldemort kills some random mook he’s feeling personal hate towards him. And IIRC in canon Quirrelmort (ETA: no, not him, another Evil Teacher) kills some lab animals in class to demonstrate the killing curse; I’m sure he didn’t hate them. The requirement for hatred is a sort of “Negative Emotions == Dark Side” thing.
You’re thinking of Barty Crouch Jr. masquerading as Alastor Moody in Goblet of Fire.
EDIT: typo
Right, thanks!
Alastor.
thanks
That’s interesting. Rational!Harry might not be well-versed in subtleties of casting unforgivables, so Quirrel’s explanation might look more plausible to him.
So him having an excuse prepared for when he casts AK and doesn’t end up killing an Auror is evidence that he was intending to kill the Auror? Then him not having an excuse for when he fails to kill the Auror would have been evidence that he wasn’t intending to kill the Auror..
That he had an excuse ought to be evidence that he was intending to cast the Avada Kedavra and miss. The story makes more sense that way, too: Consider what would have happened if Quirrell had actually killed the Auror, without some crazy reaction from Harry’s magic. Now consider what would have happened if Quirrell had just barely missed. The first option has Quirrell and Harry in an emotional, full-blown argument in the middle of Azkaban with Bellatrix watching the Dark Lord berating a henchman for killing someone, and they haven’t escaped yet. The second option has protestations from Harry quickly squashed and a ready escape, with Bellatrix seeing the Dark Lord mock his henchman for failing to kill, leaving behind an Auror who will tell everyone they are looking for a phenomenally powerful sallow-faced wizard all by himself, not a professor and a student.
You’re misinterpretating the parent comment’s argument. It didn’t say Quirrel’s excuse was evidence he was intending to kill the Auror. It said it didn’t SHOW he wasn’t intending to kill him.
There’s a difference between ‘shows’ and ‘is evidence for’. I’d say that “shows” typically means “is CONCLUSIVE evidence for”.
That Quirrel had an excuse IS evidence he was not intending to kill the Auror—of course it’s evidence for that. It’s just not CONCLUSIVE evidence for that.
Leaving behind a memory-wiped Auror who has no idea what happened.