I’m mystified as to how to shave smoothly without cutting myself and without razor burn. I’ve never been able to accomplish all three of these in one shave. (This is facial shaving I’m speaking of, as I am male). Not shaving is not an option, as I quickly develop a distinctly unfashionable neck-beard whenever I neglect shaving.
Update, one year later: I can report that shaving during a warm shower with no shaving cream has increased the smoothness of my shaves, has drastically reduced shaving cuts and has eliminated razor burn almost entirely. Thanks, Less Wrong!
I had the same problem, but it went away immediately after one simple change: stop using shaving cream. Instead, just apply warm water before you shave (it helps to do it after a shower). Before I made the change, my face was always irritable the day of a shave, and exercising would make it flare up; now, nothing. (Having a good multi-blade razor still matters though.)
I was pointed to this idea by some article by Jeffrey Tucker on lewrockwell.com sometime in ’06.
I stopped using shaving cream for a while, and tried to get by with just hot water, and my results were markedly negative. Much more irritation, and a lot of ingrown hairs.
I had the same problem, but it went away immediately after one simple change: stop using shaving cream. Instead, just apply warm water before you shave (it helps to do it after a shower). Before I made the change, my face was always irritable the day of a shave, and exercising would make it flare up; now, nothing. (Having a good multi-blade razor still matters though.)
Maybe you’re using the wrong cream? Using just water was much worse for me than using cream. (I’ve also found than massaging for a while to spread the cream rather than just sticking it on my face helps.)
This article is supposed to be a life changer when it comes to shaving. I haven’t tried all of the suggestions, but the ones I have tried have improved my shaving experience.
I second the recommendation to learn the art of wet shaving. If you’re frugal about it you can make an initial investment of around $75 and have it amortized over a few years compared to cartridges.
The real benefit is that the shaves are much better, and more importantly, it has become an enjoyable ritual that starts my day off with a little class and luxury.
While I’ve never had serious problems shaving such as you describe, I did find it a humungous bore and wholely unsatisfying until someone on Hacker News linked to this guy’s videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qSIP6uQ3EI
What made the real difference for me was going from multiblade razor with can of shaving foam, to multiblade razor with shaving oil, to multiblade razor with shaving soap and a proper brush, and finally that but with a neatening up afterwards using a single blade disposable. That final solution gives me a close shave and leaves my skin feeling lovely. I actually make the time to have a proper shave every day and really look forward to it!!!
YMMV, but like all hygiene stuff experimenting with new techniques is pretty useful..
before anything else, if you want to stick with blades, get a “reverse” razor (i.e. gillette sensor, mach3, fusion, etc.) from a reputable brand (gillette or schick, not a drugstore brand). this is a razor where the handle joins the cartridge at the bottom, rather than the top, and this setup (somehow) makes it much, much harder to cut yourself.
second is to figure out if your skin can handle against-the-grain shaving—shaving up (which is, again, much less likely to cut you with a “reverse” razor) produces much smoother skin than shaving down, but my skin can’t cope—about 36 hours later i break out in red welts and tiny little sores.
beyond that, experiment with different soaps/creams/gels/foams—i know people who swear by things like aveeno oatmeal foam, and others who insist shaving in the shower with nothing but the incoming hot water is the best.
I got sick of trying to shave with a sharp razor, and now use a cheap electric shaver instead. It doesn’t get quite so much of the hairs off though. Also I’ve found shaving in the morning easier if I’ve already shaved the night before.
I am astounded by how little people talk about shaving, considering it’s an activity that most of the people in our culture carry out on a regular basis. My tips:
Seconding SilasBarta’s suggestion on just using warm water rather than shaving foam
Try shaving while actually in the shower, since the humidity helps a lot
Find an optimal frequency for shaving. (I have a magical shaving period of about 50 hours, at which my facial hair is long enough for a razor to gain easy purchase but not so long to need a lawnmower. I have pretty fair hair, though, so I can get away with only shaving every two days)
How does that work for you? Have you ever tried a blade? I have not, and I am interested in knowing how the two compare. Particularly whether or not blade-based techniques (such as wetting your face with warm water) are helpful for electric shavers.
Have never used a blade. I have always had acne and other skin problems that would make it impractical, plus it was just what my parents introduced me to in adolescence. But definitely not wet.
I also use an electric razor, the foil head type. I’ve used a blade, but I find it far too much time and trouble.
The rules are pretty much the opposite from using a blade. With an electric razor, shave against the grain. Shaving with the grain, the hair lies down in front of the head and isn’t cut. Shave dry. Water makes the hair more flexible and slippery, and it more easily lies down. The same applies to any other “product”. The razor should have a beard trimming attachment, to deal with hairs that got away and are too long for the razor to do anything about. If you skipped shaving for a few days, go all over with the beard trimmer before using the razor.
Mine’s battery powered, so I can use it anywhere. At least, anywhere it’s ok to discard powdered hair.
It will never be as close a shave as with a blade, but I don’t care. I suspect the need for super-close shaves is an invention of the shaving accessories industry trying to maintain their product churn.
I would say that the key is to experiment with various techniques, razors, foams & soaps until you find one that works. I had to go through several razors and several soap/foam products until I found a combo that didn’t give me burns.
I always shave in the bath, making sure my face has been wet for a few minutes. I lather up with ordinary, cheap-as-dirt soap. The razor I have found works for me is the 5-blade MACH TURBO SUPERSONIC STEALTH type you see advertised all the time these days. Very hard to cut yourself with them unless you move it sideways and with pressure.
One crucial recommendation is to shave upwards from the bottom of your neck to the top. This takes a lot of getting used to and really gave me the willies at first, but it works much better and you miss a lot less hair.
One crucial recommendation is to shave upwards from the bottom of your neck to the top. This takes a lot of getting used to and really gave me the willies at first, but it works much better and you miss a lot less hair.
Really? I have the exact opposite experience. I find that going against the grain, especially on the neck, gives me nicks and rashes.
After having experimented a lot, what works for me is wetshaving using any ol’ shaving cream, multi-blade razor, going with the grain.
Since facial hair grows in different directions this means you have to pay attention to it. Briefly, I shave top-down on the face and away from the chin on the neck.
For a very smooth shave, I sometimes do it with the grain, a second time against the grain and a third time with it. I read somewhere that the third time is important to avoid ingrown hair and rashes and in my case it works, but YMMV.
I’m mystified as to how to shave smoothly without cutting myself and without razor burn. I’ve never been able to accomplish all three of these in one shave. (This is facial shaving I’m speaking of, as I am male). Not shaving is not an option, as I quickly develop a distinctly unfashionable neck-beard whenever I neglect shaving.
Update, one year later: I can report that shaving during a warm shower with no shaving cream has increased the smoothness of my shaves, has drastically reduced shaving cuts and has eliminated razor burn almost entirely. Thanks, Less Wrong!
I had the same problem, but it went away immediately after one simple change: stop using shaving cream. Instead, just apply warm water before you shave (it helps to do it after a shower). Before I made the change, my face was always irritable the day of a shave, and exercising would make it flare up; now, nothing. (Having a good multi-blade razor still matters though.)
I was pointed to this idea by some article by Jeffrey Tucker on lewrockwell.com sometime in ’06.
I second this. Shave in the shower. I haven’t used soap or shaving cream in years. My skin is happier too.
I stopped using shaving cream for a while, and tried to get by with just hot water, and my results were markedly negative. Much more irritation, and a lot of ingrown hairs.
Maybe you’re using the wrong cream? Using just water was much worse for me than using cream. (I’ve also found than massaging for a while to spread the cream rather than just sticking it on my face helps.)
This article is supposed to be a life changer when it comes to shaving. I haven’t tried all of the suggestions, but the ones I have tried have improved my shaving experience.
I second the recommendation to learn the art of wet shaving. If you’re frugal about it you can make an initial investment of around $75 and have it amortized over a few years compared to cartridges.
The real benefit is that the shaves are much better, and more importantly, it has become an enjoyable ritual that starts my day off with a little class and luxury.
While I’ve never had serious problems shaving such as you describe, I did find it a humungous bore and wholely unsatisfying until someone on Hacker News linked to this guy’s videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qSIP6uQ3EI
What made the real difference for me was going from multiblade razor with can of shaving foam, to multiblade razor with shaving oil, to multiblade razor with shaving soap and a proper brush, and finally that but with a neatening up afterwards using a single blade disposable. That final solution gives me a close shave and leaves my skin feeling lovely. I actually make the time to have a proper shave every day and really look forward to it!!!
YMMV, but like all hygiene stuff experimenting with new techniques is pretty useful..
before anything else, if you want to stick with blades, get a “reverse” razor (i.e. gillette sensor, mach3, fusion, etc.) from a reputable brand (gillette or schick, not a drugstore brand). this is a razor where the handle joins the cartridge at the bottom, rather than the top, and this setup (somehow) makes it much, much harder to cut yourself.
second is to figure out if your skin can handle against-the-grain shaving—shaving up (which is, again, much less likely to cut you with a “reverse” razor) produces much smoother skin than shaving down, but my skin can’t cope—about 36 hours later i break out in red welts and tiny little sores.
beyond that, experiment with different soaps/creams/gels/foams—i know people who swear by things like aveeno oatmeal foam, and others who insist shaving in the shower with nothing but the incoming hot water is the best.
or try electric. :)
I got sick of trying to shave with a sharp razor, and now use a cheap electric shaver instead. It doesn’t get quite so much of the hairs off though. Also I’ve found shaving in the morning easier if I’ve already shaved the night before.
I am astounded by how little people talk about shaving, considering it’s an activity that most of the people in our culture carry out on a regular basis. My tips:
Seconding SilasBarta’s suggestion on just using warm water rather than shaving foam
Try shaving while actually in the shower, since the humidity helps a lot
Find an optimal frequency for shaving. (I have a magical shaving period of about 50 hours, at which my facial hair is long enough for a razor to gain easy purchase but not so long to need a lawnmower. I have pretty fair hair, though, so I can get away with only shaving every two days)
Get some sort of post-shave moisturising product.
I use a powered shaver rather than a blade.
How does that work for you? Have you ever tried a blade? I have not, and I am interested in knowing how the two compare. Particularly whether or not blade-based techniques (such as wetting your face with warm water) are helpful for electric shavers.
Have never used a blade. I have always had acne and other skin problems that would make it impractical, plus it was just what my parents introduced me to in adolescence. But definitely not wet.
I also use an electric razor, the foil head type. I’ve used a blade, but I find it far too much time and trouble.
The rules are pretty much the opposite from using a blade. With an electric razor, shave against the grain. Shaving with the grain, the hair lies down in front of the head and isn’t cut. Shave dry. Water makes the hair more flexible and slippery, and it more easily lies down. The same applies to any other “product”. The razor should have a beard trimming attachment, to deal with hairs that got away and are too long for the razor to do anything about. If you skipped shaving for a few days, go all over with the beard trimmer before using the razor.
Mine’s battery powered, so I can use it anywhere. At least, anywhere it’s ok to discard powdered hair.
It will never be as close a shave as with a blade, but I don’t care. I suspect the need for super-close shaves is an invention of the shaving accessories industry trying to maintain their product churn.
I would say that the key is to experiment with various techniques, razors, foams & soaps until you find one that works. I had to go through several razors and several soap/foam products until I found a combo that didn’t give me burns.
I always shave in the bath, making sure my face has been wet for a few minutes. I lather up with ordinary, cheap-as-dirt soap. The razor I have found works for me is the 5-blade MACH TURBO SUPERSONIC STEALTH type you see advertised all the time these days. Very hard to cut yourself with them unless you move it sideways and with pressure.
One crucial recommendation is to shave upwards from the bottom of your neck to the top. This takes a lot of getting used to and really gave me the willies at first, but it works much better and you miss a lot less hair.
Really? I have the exact opposite experience. I find that going against the grain, especially on the neck, gives me nicks and rashes.
After having experimented a lot, what works for me is wetshaving using any ol’ shaving cream, multi-blade razor, going with the grain.
Since facial hair grows in different directions this means you have to pay attention to it. Briefly, I shave top-down on the face and away from the chin on the neck.
For a very smooth shave, I sometimes do it with the grain, a second time against the grain and a third time with it. I read somewhere that the third time is important to avoid ingrown hair and rashes and in my case it works, but YMMV.
Why has no one on this thread mentioned safety razors?
If you ever want to try not shaving again, it will look much better after several weeks of growth. You just have to get through that initial phase.