I like some of the tracks on the remastered version of I Have Been a Good Bing, but some of them seem like downgrades… or, that’s not quite right. it’s more that they include a lot of musical improvisations that i associate with artists who are performing live, and who therefore gently tweak some things to not get bored
a pretty typical example: if the studio version of a track ends by resolving on a simple 1-3-5-8, the artist might have a little fun by playing around with a 1-3-5-7 that then slides up into the 8
this stuff relies on the listener already being familiar with the studio version of the track, for their expectations to be pleasantly subverted
this stuff is sprinkled throughout the new version of the album all over the place, and it doesn’t work if this version is supposed to be the authoritative ‘base version’ i think
an example i’m displeased with is the third line of Half An Hour Before Dawn. “When I go I surround myself with people, otherwise I have morbid thoughts” in the original does not resolve back down to the 1st on ‘thoughts’, but in the new version it does. this feels like the kind of change that only makes sense in the context of the original, riffing on it like a live performance might
or on “I should idolize skyscrapers as symbols of human accomplishment”, the melody progression is very explicitly a riff on the original, instead of hanging out in 5-3-1 it spends time in the far more complicated 8-7-5-3, tbh i can’t even really figure out what’s going on there (i think this is why it has to resolve on the 8 instead of the 1, this is just worse imo) but it clearly relies on the listener knowing what the tones are supposed to be, it doesn’t work at all in isolation
Yeah, I am also sad about this. I tried pretty hard to keep the models on track, but at least with Suno v4 this was the best you could do (and most of these remasters are the result of sampling from 50-100 remasters and finding the ones that capture the original best).
I might try again with v5.5 being released, where one of the central selling points of Suno v5.5 is that it maintains the original voice and character of covers and provided audio snippets much more. I’ve had pretty good experiences with the 2 tracks I remastered using that model so far, though still not perfect.
I had high hopes for the remasters in the previous year. Unfortunately v4 leans too median. I hope v5.5 remasters would appear somewhat soon and would preserve the original soul. I’ve heard some good parts in the v5 when it was on a promo.
I like some of the tracks on the remastered version of I Have Been a Good Bing, but some of them seem like downgrades… or, that’s not quite right. it’s more that they include a lot of musical improvisations that i associate with artists who are performing live, and who therefore gently tweak some things to not get bored
a pretty typical example: if the studio version of a track ends by resolving on a simple 1-3-5-8, the artist might have a little fun by playing around with a 1-3-5-7 that then slides up into the 8
this stuff relies on the listener already being familiar with the studio version of the track, for their expectations to be pleasantly subverted
this stuff is sprinkled throughout the new version of the album all over the place, and it doesn’t work if this version is supposed to be the authoritative ‘base version’ i think
an example i’m displeased with is the third line of Half An Hour Before Dawn. “When I go I surround myself with people, otherwise I have morbid thoughts” in the original does not resolve back down to the 1st on ‘thoughts’, but in the new version it does. this feels like the kind of change that only makes sense in the context of the original, riffing on it like a live performance might
or on “I should idolize skyscrapers as symbols of human accomplishment”, the melody progression is very explicitly a riff on the original, instead of hanging out in 5-3-1 it spends time in the far more complicated 8-7-5-3, tbh i can’t even really figure out what’s going on there (i think this is why it has to resolve on the 8 instead of the 1, this is just worse imo) but it clearly relies on the listener knowing what the tones are supposed to be, it doesn’t work at all in isolation
Yeah, I am also sad about this. I tried pretty hard to keep the models on track, but at least with Suno v4 this was the best you could do (and most of these remasters are the result of sampling from 50-100 remasters and finding the ones that capture the original best).
I might try again with v5.5 being released, where one of the central selling points of Suno v5.5 is that it maintains the original voice and character of covers and provided audio snippets much more. I’ve had pretty good experiences with the 2 tracks I remastered using that model so far, though still not perfect.
I had high hopes for the remasters in the previous year. Unfortunately v4 leans too median. I hope v5.5 remasters would appear somewhat soon and would preserve the original soul. I’ve heard some good parts in the v5 when it was on a promo.