I really liked Jaan’s talk as well, but I wonder how “Level 2” people react to it. Would they be offended by the suggestion that they are maximizing their social status instead of doing what’s best for future society, or by the Levels terminology which implies that they are inferior to “Level 3″ people? (The implication seems clear despite repeated disclaimers from Jaan.)
My first reaction to seeing Jaan’s talk was “someone ought to forward this to Bill Gates”, but now I’m not so sure.
I’m not sure it should be changed, just saying that Jaan might want to do a bit of “market research” before putting his message in front of a different audience. Who knows, maybe being described as status junkies and “level 2″ is actually a good way to make people like Bill Gates reconsider their priorities?
There was a discussion at a dinner afterwards about what the C stood for.
It took far too long to remember, but “exactivist” was a popular alternative. (exact + ist, ex—activist, ex (as in x-risk) activist, and probably a few more that I forgot).
A good talk, but as others have mentioned, “CL3” thing is strange, and it seems like the whole idea of there being levels has only weak motivation (and raises irrelevant objections, that prompt disclaimers about “levels other than CL3 being OK” that Jaan was forced to repeatedly make). On the other hand, the categorization into three unordered areas of activism/concern seems solid.
My favorite talk is Jaan’s.
I really liked Jaan’s talk as well, but I wonder how “Level 2” people react to it. Would they be offended by the suggestion that they are maximizing their social status instead of doing what’s best for future society, or by the Levels terminology which implies that they are inferior to “Level 3″ people? (The implication seems clear despite repeated disclaimers from Jaan.)
My first reaction to seeing Jaan’s talk was “someone ought to forward this to Bill Gates”, but now I’m not so sure.
Yup, I’d want to change that part.
I’m not sure it should be changed, just saying that Jaan might want to do a bit of “market research” before putting his message in front of a different audience. Who knows, maybe being described as status junkies and “level 2″ is actually a good way to make people like Bill Gates reconsider their priorities?
I’m sure this has nothing to do with him paying a large chunk of your salary :P
Seriously, though, it was a great talk, with a great conclusion, too. But can’t say that the label “CL3 Generation” is catchy enough.
There was a discussion at a dinner afterwards about what the C stood for.
It took far too long to remember, but “exactivist” was a popular alternative. (exact + ist, ex—activist, ex (as in x-risk) activist, and probably a few more that I forgot).
A good talk, but as others have mentioned, “CL3” thing is strange, and it seems like the whole idea of there being levels has only weak motivation (and raises irrelevant objections, that prompt disclaimers about “levels other than CL3 being OK” that Jaan was forced to repeatedly make). On the other hand, the categorization into three unordered areas of activism/concern seems solid.
That is probably a good example of how not to attempt to launch a meme.
Can you be more specific?
The “CL3 Generation” meme. It even managed to remind me of Scientology’s “OT auditing levels”.
Perhaps more time on 4chan is needed.