Do you have any pointers to how to prepare/select raw meat so that it is safe to eat?
Yes: smell and taste it. If it smells good, eat it. If it doesn’t smell good, or if you find yourself wanting to spit it back out (either before or after you swallow), it’s bad.
My wife and I have both found that ours bodies are quite sensitive to the scent and taste of raw food; it’s easy to tell if something is bad or not. I seem to remember reading somewhere that bacterial counts can be 26 times higher in cooked food than raw, before it’s detectable by taste or smell; evidently evolution hasn’t had enough time to tune our senses for detecting the quality of cooked proteins!
One other interesting phenomenon I’ve never seen mentioned anywhere: for lack of anything else to call it, I call it the throat sense. After you swallow something that passes the smell and taste test, but which isn’t quite good enough, you’ll find an urge to hack it back up from your throat, even though you’ve already swallowed it.
It’s not like throwing up, exactly; it’s as if the food just doesn’t go all the way down, and you can just spit it right back out again. I think that babies and circus regurgitators make use of the same machinery. But I wasn’t aware that I had such a thing, personally, until the first time I swallowed a bad egg that I didn’t smell first. (Nowadays, I smell every egg after opening, and I don’t refrigerate them. Refrigeration makes them harder to smell, and kept out of the sun, they keep for 2-3 weeks.)
As far as I know, I’ve never gotten sick from eating a raw protein gone bad, because they don’t stay down long enough to reach my stomach. (I did get sick the first time I ate a bad avocado, but I didn’t realize yet that it wasn’t supposed to taste like that!)
So, as long as you aren’t disguising the taste and smell of your food, I wouldn’t worry too much about safety. When it comes to raw, if it tastes good, it is good. You can at least trust evolution to get this bit correct. ;-)
I seem to remember reading somewhere that bacterial counts can be 26 times higher in cooked food than raw, before it’s detectable by taste or smell; evidently evolution hasn’t had enough time to tune our senses for detecting the quality of cooked proteins!
Sounds suspicious to me. OK, so maybe if you cook your meat in spices, you can’t smell the bugs as easily. But cooking kills bugs, most spices kill bugs, salt stops bugs growing and you don’t keep cooked meat for long enough for the surviving, or new bacteria to multiply to dangerous levels. If you had a credible reference for the claim I wouldn’t be as suspicious.
you don’t keep cooked meat for long enough for the surviving, or new bacteria to multiply to dangerous levels
Then why, when I was growing up, did they have all those “you’ll be sorry” commercials about not leaving your cooked food out on the counter for more than a couple hours?
OK, so maybe if you cook your meat in spices, you can’t smell the bugs as easily.
It’s got nothing to do with spices. Compare the smell of room temperature raw meat and cooked meat, left out for a couple hours: the cooked meat emits very little scent, period, while the raw meat still smells good. Just the fact that there’s more scent means you can detect a finer-grained change in the scent… and the same thing goes for the flavor.
So as long as the bacteria in question are changing the scent, you’re going to be able to detect it more easily in the raw.
It’s pretty reasonable to assume that somewhere in our evolutionary ancestry, it was advantageous to be able to tell whether some borderline raw meat was safe for eating or not. Whereas, the opportunity for selection on detecting the safety of borderline cooked flesh has been somewhat more limited in scope, as well as being a more difficult task just due to the destruction of some of the meat’s scent-producing capacity.
If you had a credible reference for the claim I wouldn’t be as suspicious.
I’m not clear on what you mean by “suspicious”. I’m certainly not trying to persuade anyone to follow my dietary choices, here. I was just answering somebody else’s question.
Yes: smell and taste it. If it smells good, eat it. If it doesn’t smell good, or if you find yourself wanting to spit it back out (either before or after you swallow), it’s bad.
My wife and I have both found that ours bodies are quite sensitive to the scent and taste of raw food; it’s easy to tell if something is bad or not. I seem to remember reading somewhere that bacterial counts can be 26 times higher in cooked food than raw, before it’s detectable by taste or smell; evidently evolution hasn’t had enough time to tune our senses for detecting the quality of cooked proteins!
One other interesting phenomenon I’ve never seen mentioned anywhere: for lack of anything else to call it, I call it the throat sense. After you swallow something that passes the smell and taste test, but which isn’t quite good enough, you’ll find an urge to hack it back up from your throat, even though you’ve already swallowed it.
It’s not like throwing up, exactly; it’s as if the food just doesn’t go all the way down, and you can just spit it right back out again. I think that babies and circus regurgitators make use of the same machinery. But I wasn’t aware that I had such a thing, personally, until the first time I swallowed a bad egg that I didn’t smell first. (Nowadays, I smell every egg after opening, and I don’t refrigerate them. Refrigeration makes them harder to smell, and kept out of the sun, they keep for 2-3 weeks.)
As far as I know, I’ve never gotten sick from eating a raw protein gone bad, because they don’t stay down long enough to reach my stomach. (I did get sick the first time I ate a bad avocado, but I didn’t realize yet that it wasn’t supposed to taste like that!)
So, as long as you aren’t disguising the taste and smell of your food, I wouldn’t worry too much about safety. When it comes to raw, if it tastes good, it is good. You can at least trust evolution to get this bit correct. ;-)
You can’t smell liver flukes.
Sounds suspicious to me. OK, so maybe if you cook your meat in spices, you can’t smell the bugs as easily. But cooking kills bugs, most spices kill bugs, salt stops bugs growing and you don’t keep cooked meat for long enough for the surviving, or new bacteria to multiply to dangerous levels. If you had a credible reference for the claim I wouldn’t be as suspicious.
Then why, when I was growing up, did they have all those “you’ll be sorry” commercials about not leaving your cooked food out on the counter for more than a couple hours?
It’s got nothing to do with spices. Compare the smell of room temperature raw meat and cooked meat, left out for a couple hours: the cooked meat emits very little scent, period, while the raw meat still smells good. Just the fact that there’s more scent means you can detect a finer-grained change in the scent… and the same thing goes for the flavor.
So as long as the bacteria in question are changing the scent, you’re going to be able to detect it more easily in the raw.
It’s pretty reasonable to assume that somewhere in our evolutionary ancestry, it was advantageous to be able to tell whether some borderline raw meat was safe for eating or not. Whereas, the opportunity for selection on detecting the safety of borderline cooked flesh has been somewhat more limited in scope, as well as being a more difficult task just due to the destruction of some of the meat’s scent-producing capacity.
I’m not clear on what you mean by “suspicious”. I’m certainly not trying to persuade anyone to follow my dietary choices, here. I was just answering somebody else’s question.