You haven’t described any pareto improvements. When you say “net good”, you’re acknowledging tradeoffs between agents (and perhaps tradeoffs within agents, but that’s generally resolvable via utility functions).
Casting majority support as privilege doesn’t add anything to the discussion—it’s still just bullying of the minority. And still probably the most stable outcome and a net improvement by utilitarian (flawed) calculations.
I think you may be extrapolating over all people’s preferences, whereas I’m modeling a limited perspective; that is, I’m evaluating the pareto improvement from the set of known-to-the-modeler’s preferences. A privileged moral perspective doesn’t need to be aware of unprivileged moral perspectives; that’s a major component of the basic privilege involved.
I can see why that would be confusing. But I don’t think it is necessarily useful to characterize the behavior as bullying; that definitely can be how it feels, granted. Hrm. “It isn’t that they don’t think you matter, it is that they don’t know you exist.”
You haven’t described any pareto improvements. When you say “net good”, you’re acknowledging tradeoffs between agents (and perhaps tradeoffs within agents, but that’s generally resolvable via utility functions).
Casting majority support as privilege doesn’t add anything to the discussion—it’s still just bullying of the minority. And still probably the most stable outcome and a net improvement by utilitarian (flawed) calculations.
I think you may be extrapolating over all people’s preferences, whereas I’m modeling a limited perspective; that is, I’m evaluating the pareto improvement from the set of known-to-the-modeler’s preferences. A privileged moral perspective doesn’t need to be aware of unprivileged moral perspectives; that’s a major component of the basic privilege involved.
I can see why that would be confusing. But I don’t think it is necessarily useful to characterize the behavior as bullying; that definitely can be how it feels, granted. Hrm. “It isn’t that they don’t think you matter, it is that they don’t know you exist.”