If we were to break down where a value comes from it would have to be from some combination of these basic drives, cortical tendencies (e.g. vulnerability to optical illusions), and learned behavior.
I wouldn’t want to say this is false, but I’d want to say that speaking like this is a red flag that we haven’t understood what values are in the appropriate basis. We can name some dimensions (the ones you list, and others), but then our values are rotated with respect to this basis; our values are some vector that cuts across these basis vectors. We lack the relevant concepts. When you say that you experience “the underlying drivers behind your goals” as being constant, I’m skeptical, not because I don’t think there’s something that’s fairly fixed, but because we lack the concepts to describe that fixed thing, and so it’s hard to see how you could have a clear experience of the fixedness. At most you could have a vague sense that perhaps there is something fixed. And if so, then I’d want to take that sense as a pointer toward the as-yet not understood ideas.
Yes, I think I’d go with the description: ‘vague sense that there is something fixed, and a lived experience that says that if not completely fixed then certainly slow moving.’
and I absolutely agree that understanding on this is lacking.
I wouldn’t want to say this is false, but I’d want to say that speaking like this is a red flag that we haven’t understood what values are in the appropriate basis. We can name some dimensions (the ones you list, and others), but then our values are rotated with respect to this basis; our values are some vector that cuts across these basis vectors. We lack the relevant concepts. When you say that you experience “the underlying drivers behind your goals” as being constant, I’m skeptical, not because I don’t think there’s something that’s fairly fixed, but because we lack the concepts to describe that fixed thing, and so it’s hard to see how you could have a clear experience of the fixedness. At most you could have a vague sense that perhaps there is something fixed. And if so, then I’d want to take that sense as a pointer toward the as-yet not understood ideas.
Yes, I think I’d go with the description: ‘vague sense that there is something fixed, and a lived experience that says that if not completely fixed then certainly slow moving.’
and I absolutely agree that understanding on this is lacking.