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I read the context but just don’t object to rhollerith exiting the conversation. You’ve already had your chance to punish him (via vote and social positioning) for what you perceive to be not paying you your due respect and it isn’t necessarily wise for him to make himself vulnerable to another salvo if he anticipates an aggressive response. Even paying the courtesy of responding to “are you going to continue?” was probably a mistake since it allowed you to draw attention to his earlier faux pas. Either don’t respond at all or respond with something thoroughly polished.
Basically I am reluctant to expect people to do things that are clearly bad for them unless I have a damn good reason to. (Even if this is a rather trivial instance with respect to degree of ‘demand’ and ‘bad for’.)
since I don’t know whether rhollerith actually noticed something important, or is defecting by accident
In rhollerith’s story (if I am modelling him correctly) it would be you who was defecting by not answering the questions he had already asked. His mistake was that by social convention it is usually ok to ignore an adversary’s questions, especially if witnesses aren’t paying close attention. But including “to my satisfaction” was never going to be received well, even by a casual observer—it is a defection that just seems banal and almost cringe-worthy. He could have drawn attention back to his questions in a more effective manner. Perhaps by first giving the example and then hammering down the questions again.
In rhollerith’s story (if I am modelling him correctly) it would be you who was defecting by not answering the questions he had already asked. His mistake was that by social convention it is usually ok to ignore an adversary’s questions, especially if witnesses aren’t paying close attention.
No, the mistake was that I wasn’t actually interested in convincing him (or anyone) of anything—I was only trying to use the thread to collect ideas.
No, the mistake was that I wasn’t actually interested in convincing him (or anyone) of anything—I was only trying to use the thread to collect ideas.
When I speak of rhollerith’s mistake I speak of the deviation of his actions from an optimal path for achieving his goals. In this case particularly with respect to social goals. I didn’t speak of where he violated your expectations or preferences be they professed or actual (or both). Having an accurate model of you would be relatively insignificant (and entirely redundant) when it came to predicting how his “to my satisfaction” comment would be received in the social context.
I read the context but just don’t object to rhollerith exiting the conversation. You’ve already had your chance to punish him (via vote and social positioning) for what you perceive to be not paying you your due respect and it isn’t necessarily wise for him to make himself vulnerable to another salvo if he anticipates an aggressive response. Even paying the courtesy of responding to “are you going to continue?” was probably a mistake since it allowed you to draw attention to his earlier faux pas. Either don’t respond at all or respond with something thoroughly polished.
Basically I am reluctant to expect people to do things that are clearly bad for them unless I have a damn good reason to. (Even if this is a rather trivial instance with respect to degree of ‘demand’ and ‘bad for’.)
In rhollerith’s story (if I am modelling him correctly) it would be you who was defecting by not answering the questions he had already asked. His mistake was that by social convention it is usually ok to ignore an adversary’s questions, especially if witnesses aren’t paying close attention. But including “to my satisfaction” was never going to be received well, even by a casual observer—it is a defection that just seems banal and almost cringe-worthy. He could have drawn attention back to his questions in a more effective manner. Perhaps by first giving the example and then hammering down the questions again.
No, the mistake was that I wasn’t actually interested in convincing him (or anyone) of anything—I was only trying to use the thread to collect ideas.
When I speak of rhollerith’s mistake I speak of the deviation of his actions from an optimal path for achieving his goals. In this case particularly with respect to social goals. I didn’t speak of where he violated your expectations or preferences be they professed or actual (or both). Having an accurate model of you would be relatively insignificant (and entirely redundant) when it came to predicting how his “to my satisfaction” comment would be received in the social context.