I think it’s generally the case that patterns need to survive to be good, but also it’s fairly normal for patterns to die and this to be kinda fine. (i.e. it’s fine if feudalism lasts a few hundred years and then is outcompeted by other stuff).
The application to superintelligence does seem, like, true and special, but, probably most patterns that evolved naturally don’t successfully navigate superintelligence well and I’m not sure it’s the right standard for them.
probably most patterns that evolved naturally don’t successfully navigate superintelligence well and I’m not sure it’s the right standard for them.
I’m not sure what you mean by standard, but navigating superintelligence well is something I care a lot about. So it seems like a reasonable thing to criticize a system for, and it would be great if we found a pattern that did navigate it well (even if finding or switching to another one is very hard).
What I meant was, if you’re trying to discriminate between political/economic systems and notice “21st century capitalism / mix-mash-distribution-of-democracy-and-various-flavors-of-authoritatian-etc” doesn’t look on track to successfully navigate superintelligence, well, that might be true, but, it’s probably also true of most political/economic-systems that aren’t Dath Ilan or similar.
It seems true, but, something like “there are kinds of different ways to fail, there are relatively few ways to succeed, so failure isn’t actually that informative.”
I think it’s generally the case that patterns need to survive to be good, but also it’s fairly normal for patterns to die and this to be kinda fine. (i.e. it’s fine if feudalism lasts a few hundred years and then is outcompeted by other stuff).
The application to superintelligence does seem, like, true and special, but, probably most patterns that evolved naturally don’t successfully navigate superintelligence well and I’m not sure it’s the right standard for them.
I’m not sure what you mean by standard, but navigating superintelligence well is something I care a lot about. So it seems like a reasonable thing to criticize a system for, and it would be great if we found a pattern that did navigate it well (even if finding or switching to another one is very hard).
What I meant was, if you’re trying to discriminate between political/economic systems and notice “21st century capitalism / mix-mash-distribution-of-democracy-and-various-flavors-of-authoritatian-etc” doesn’t look on track to successfully navigate superintelligence, well, that might be true, but, it’s probably also true of most political/economic-systems that aren’t Dath Ilan or similar.
It seems true, but, something like “there are kinds of different ways to fail, there are relatively few ways to succeed, so failure isn’t actually that informative.”