What you describe sounds pretty common among people who are either capable of detaching emotionally from the topic at hand, or who lack emotional investment to it in the first place, as a description of people who aren’t and don’t.
There’s a lot of different labels that can be applied to this condition depending on how one wants to frame it; rather than get into framing wars I’ll just label it X for convenience. And X is hardly limited to how libertarians view progressives, of course.
All of that said, you may be right that libertarians are more likely to demonstrate X than progressives are. You might further be right that this is because libertarians are too much of a minority, because they lack the luxurious walled-garden privileges that progressives enjoy, because they would otherwise commit mass murder, etc.
That said, I would caution against inferring any of that with significant confidence solely from personal experiences.
I would also caution against describing the situation the way you do here unless your intention is to upset progressives who lack X.
That said, upsetting people in this way can of course be a very effective way of maneuvering for status, as the people you upset will typically express their emotions, which in a social community like this one allows you to roll your eyes and dismiss them with community support. If that sort of social status maneuvering is your goal in the first place, then of course neither of those cautions apply.
If that sort of social status maneuvering is your goal in the first place, then of course neither of those cautions apply.
Not as goal in itself, but it appears to frequently be a necessary first step to getting progressives to the point where it’s possible to have a reasonable discussion.
I would caution against inferring any of that with significant confidence solely from personal experiences.
I’m sure my generalizations would be wrong for lots of individual Progressives and Libertarians, but that won’t make me dismiss my conclusions from my lifetime of observations. What can we reason, but from what we know?
I would also caution against describing the situation the way you do here unless your intention is to upset progressives who lack X.
I’m a libertarian, loathe Progressive doctrines, and would remake the world to efface their effects from existence. If they’re Progressives and lack X, I don’t see a way to sugar coat those facts that will make them happy. Do you?
That said, upsetting people in this way can of course be a very effective way of maneuvering for status
Yes, and framing someone’s statements as intentionally upsetting people to maneuver for status is effective in maneuvering for status with some people too.
What you describe sounds pretty common among people who are either capable of detaching emotionally from the topic at hand, or who lack emotional investment to it in the first place, as a description of people who aren’t and don’t.
There’s a lot of different labels that can be applied to this condition depending on how one wants to frame it; rather than get into framing wars I’ll just label it X for convenience. And X is hardly limited to how libertarians view progressives, of course.
All of that said, you may be right that libertarians are more likely to demonstrate X than progressives are. You might further be right that this is because libertarians are too much of a minority, because they lack the luxurious walled-garden privileges that progressives enjoy, because they would otherwise commit mass murder, etc.
That said, I would caution against inferring any of that with significant confidence solely from personal experiences.
I would also caution against describing the situation the way you do here unless your intention is to upset progressives who lack X.
That said, upsetting people in this way can of course be a very effective way of maneuvering for status, as the people you upset will typically express their emotions, which in a social community like this one allows you to roll your eyes and dismiss them with community support. If that sort of social status maneuvering is your goal in the first place, then of course neither of those cautions apply.
Not as goal in itself, but it appears to frequently be a necessary first step to getting progressives to the point where it’s possible to have a reasonable discussion.
I’m sure my generalizations would be wrong for lots of individual Progressives and Libertarians, but that won’t make me dismiss my conclusions from my lifetime of observations. What can we reason, but from what we know?
I’m a libertarian, loathe Progressive doctrines, and would remake the world to efface their effects from existence. If they’re Progressives and lack X, I don’t see a way to sugar coat those facts that will make them happy. Do you?
Yes, and framing someone’s statements as intentionally upsetting people to maneuver for status is effective in maneuvering for status with some people too.
We can’t. But we can do things that increase the reliability of what we know.
Nope.
Absolutely.