Gwern himself refers to the “rude and offensive” part in this subthread as a one-place function:
aside from the bad news being delivered in it, I wrote a lot of it to be deliberately rude and offensive—and those were some of the most effective parts of it! (And also, yes, made people mad at me.)
I have no interest in doing more hand-wringing about whether Said’s comments are intended to make people feel judged or not, and don’t find your distinction of “no personal insults” as somehow making the rudeness more objective compelling. If you want we can talk about the Gwern hypothetical in which he clearly intended to be rude and offensive towards other people.
I think grown-ups should be able to shrug this off without calling for draconian and deranged censorship policies.
This is indeed a form of aggression and scorn that I do not approve of on this site, especially after extensive litigation.
I’ll leave it on this thread, but as a concrete example for the sake of setting clear guidelines, strawmanning all (or really any) authors who have preferences about people not being super aggro in their comment threads as “pathetic cry-bullying” and “calling for draconian and deranged censorship policies” is indeed one of the things that will get you banned from this site on other threads! You have been warned!
Gwern himself refers to the “rude and offensive” part in this subthread as a one-place function:
I have no interest in doing more hand-wringing about whether Said’s comments are intended to make people feel judged or not, and don’t find your distinction of “no personal insults” as somehow making the rudeness more objective compelling. If you want we can talk about the Gwern hypothetical in which he clearly intended to be rude and offensive towards other people.
This is indeed a form of aggression and scorn that I do not approve of on this site, especially after extensive litigation.
I’ll leave it on this thread, but as a concrete example for the sake of setting clear guidelines, strawmanning all (or really any) authors who have preferences about people not being super aggro in their comment threads as “pathetic cry-bullying” and “calling for draconian and deranged censorship policies” is indeed one of the things that will get you banned from this site on other threads! You have been warned!