The blueprint makes that distinction but it’s wrong. Male attraction is isomorphic to female attraction. The blueprint simply doesn’t look into what it takes to attract men, so it doesn’t make any statements about male attraction other than the superficial.
Anecdotally, as I became more attractive to women I became more attractive to men too. Not in a gay way, they just wanted my approval more and listened more and wanted to be my friends more than before. I felt the same way about my PUA friends as well; I could tell that they were getting cooler and I just wanted to be around them more.
There’s no doubt in my mind that the teachings work on men too.
The blueprint makes that distinction but it’s wrong. Male attraction is isomorphic to female attraction.
This is interesting to me, what do you mean by this statement? For example, the blueprint says that men’s attraction is more or less binary and relatively fixed, while a woman’s is a highly dynamic sliding scale. Would you disagree with this idea?
Yes I disagree. The blueprint covers that both sexes attraction is value based. Women’s attraction is dynamic because man’s value is dynamic; man’s attraction is static because women’s value is static (looks based). I’d argue that women’s value is static because they don’t know how to hold intrinsic value and project that value to others aside from with their looks, just as 90% of men don’t know how to do so either.
A repeated message in the blueprint is the idea that you’ll become attractive towards women, sleep with a lot of attractive girls, then you’ll find the one that you really want and use your blueprint skills maximize your chance to get her, then you’ll settle down with the one when you’re ready to exit the game. This is basically the promise that’s made throughout. However, the one you really want isn’t defined as the hottest girl, but the awesome girl that you want to be with more than anything. There’s an implicit acknowledgement that traits other than physical attractiveness matter when men look at women.
My argument is that yes those traits matter, and yes they’re the same traits that the blueprint teaches men to have.
man’s attraction is static because women’s value is static (looks based)
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However, the one you really want isn’t defined as the hottest girl, but the awesome girl that you want to be with more than anything.
One the one hand the argument is that a guy isn’t attracted to the girl which whom he wants to be with more than anything because of looks (because she’s the hottest) and one the other hand the argument is that male attraction is all about looks?
Correct. My point is that the Blueprint has conflicting messages about male attraction. It says one thing explicitly and very different thing implicitly.
I hold that the implicit teachings more closely match reality.
but the awesome girl that you want to be with more than anything
Fact is, the skills needed to attract her may be different than the skills needed to attract the typical total stranger in a night club (though some skills do transfer).
The blueprint makes that distinction but it’s wrong. Male attraction is isomorphic to female attraction. The blueprint simply doesn’t look into what it takes to attract men, so it doesn’t make any statements about male attraction other than the superficial.
Anecdotally, as I became more attractive to women I became more attractive to men too. Not in a gay way, they just wanted my approval more and listened more and wanted to be my friends more than before. I felt the same way about my PUA friends as well; I could tell that they were getting cooler and I just wanted to be around them more.
There’s no doubt in my mind that the teachings work on men too.
This is interesting to me, what do you mean by this statement? For example, the blueprint says that men’s attraction is more or less binary and relatively fixed, while a woman’s is a highly dynamic sliding scale. Would you disagree with this idea?
Yes I disagree. The blueprint covers that both sexes attraction is value based. Women’s attraction is dynamic because man’s value is dynamic; man’s attraction is static because women’s value is static (looks based). I’d argue that women’s value is static because they don’t know how to hold intrinsic value and project that value to others aside from with their looks, just as 90% of men don’t know how to do so either.
A repeated message in the blueprint is the idea that you’ll become attractive towards women, sleep with a lot of attractive girls, then you’ll find the one that you really want and use your blueprint skills maximize your chance to get her, then you’ll settle down with the one when you’re ready to exit the game. This is basically the promise that’s made throughout. However, the one you really want isn’t defined as the hottest girl, but the awesome girl that you want to be with more than anything. There’s an implicit acknowledgement that traits other than physical attractiveness matter when men look at women.
My argument is that yes those traits matter, and yes they’re the same traits that the blueprint teaches men to have.
I’m a straight, polyamorous, and financially successful man. And I say unto ye: Huh?!
whoops, misplaced a word. I’ve edited it.
One the one hand the argument is that a guy isn’t attracted to the girl which whom he wants to be with more than anything because of looks (because she’s the hottest) and one the other hand the argument is that male attraction is all about looks?
Correct. My point is that the Blueprint has conflicting messages about male attraction. It says one thing explicitly and very different thing implicitly.
I hold that the implicit teachings more closely match reality.
Note that this is a claim by user:Xachariah. The Blueprint does not make this oversimplified claim. In fact, it contradicts it.
Fact is, the skills needed to attract her may be different than the skills needed to attract the typical total stranger in a night club (though some skills do transfer).
(See e.g. this about short-term vs long-term.)