I guess there’s a tricky thing here because one needs to distinguish:
Indifference about their suffering
Excitement about effective means of manipulating them
from
Sadistically enjoying their suffering
Like indifference about the animal’s suffering is a core part of modern carnism, right? And insofar as you see animals as morally irrelevant agents for human manipulation, it’s logical to be excited about certain things that otherwise seem grotesque.
As an analogy: I don’t see random farmed trees as morally significant. So if there is some powerful manipulation one can do with a tree, e.g. sawing in it using a chainsaw or running into it with some big machine, I wouldn’t feel outraged about it, even if it doesn’t serve a business need. Instead I might even get excited about it, if it looks awesome enough.
So in the case of animals, if one doesn’t care for them, one might enjoy showing off one’s new and powerful techniques. This makes some of the more absolutist vegan policies make more sense to me. Like it seems like to avoid this, you’d need to forbid carnists from farming animals.
Hmm… 🤔
I guess there’s a tricky thing here because one needs to distinguish:
Indifference about their suffering
Excitement about effective means of manipulating them
from
Sadistically enjoying their suffering
Like indifference about the animal’s suffering is a core part of modern carnism, right? And insofar as you see animals as morally irrelevant agents for human manipulation, it’s logical to be excited about certain things that otherwise seem grotesque.
As an analogy: I don’t see random farmed trees as morally significant. So if there is some powerful manipulation one can do with a tree, e.g. sawing in it using a chainsaw or running into it with some big machine, I wouldn’t feel outraged about it, even if it doesn’t serve a business need. Instead I might even get excited about it, if it looks awesome enough.
So in the case of animals, if one doesn’t care for them, one might enjoy showing off one’s new and powerful techniques. This makes some of the more absolutist vegan policies make more sense to me. Like it seems like to avoid this, you’d need to forbid carnists from farming animals.