Cloud networks includes cloud classified networks, where OpenAI would have little control or visibility into what was happening. I don’t see how else OpenAI could relevantly replace Anthropic’s services.
My (perhaps mistaken) understanding was that they were not going to replace Anthropic on classified networks immediately, because it would take time to get that set up. And indeed, that’s why Trump implemented a six-month wind down period with Anthropic—to give time for OpenAI to set up on classified networks.
It seems possible to me that Sam is equivocating between the immediate situation (where OpenAI models are only served via the cloud, and where various safeguards are in place) and the situation in six months (where OpenAI models are are running on classified networks, and many of the promised technical safeguards are impossible, precisely because OpenAI will not have the transparency into how their models are being used).
No, the setups are supposed to be similar. That’s not what seems to be different.
Anthropic models in question are reported to be running on a classified cloud maintained by AWS, and I am sure there is cleared personnel from Anthropic to help the customers (while keeping an eye on all this).
The setup for OpenAI is supposed to be similar, but it seems that they will use a classified cloud maintained by Azure. In this case, they do explicitly emphasize the participation of cleared personnel from OpenAI who will help the customers and keep an eye on all this (but there is no reason to believe that the Anthropic installation is less attended).
I think neither customers nor providers would agree to run these things as unattended installations. Customers need support, and providers also need to make sure there is no abuse (including security of model weights, etc.). I would expect that cleared personnel from AWS and Azure is also involved in those respective cases from the cloud owners side.
My (perhaps mistaken) understanding was that they were not going to replace Anthropic on classified networks immediately, because it would take time to get that set up. And indeed, that’s why Trump implemented a six-month wind down period with Anthropic—to give time for OpenAI to set up on classified networks.
It seems possible to me that Sam is equivocating between the immediate situation (where OpenAI models are only served via the cloud, and where various safeguards are in place) and the situation in six months (where OpenAI models are are running on classified networks, and many of the promised technical safeguards are impossible, precisely because OpenAI will not have the transparency into how their models are being used).
No, the setups are supposed to be similar. That’s not what seems to be different.
Anthropic models in question are reported to be running on a classified cloud maintained by AWS, and I am sure there is cleared personnel from Anthropic to help the customers (while keeping an eye on all this).
The setup for OpenAI is supposed to be similar, but it seems that they will use a classified cloud maintained by Azure. In this case, they do explicitly emphasize the participation of cleared personnel from OpenAI who will help the customers and keep an eye on all this (but there is no reason to believe that the Anthropic installation is less attended).
I think neither customers nor providers would agree to run these things as unattended installations. Customers need support, and providers also need to make sure there is no abuse (including security of model weights, etc.). I would expect that cleared personnel from AWS and Azure is also involved in those respective cases from the cloud owners side.