I think this makes more sense for short rather than long periods of time. The morality of people in your village is unlikely to change in one day to the point where they will steal it, but it can change over a period of 10 years.
Speaking about my situation personally:
Random stranger I meet stealing my money is always above threshold.
Random stranger I meet beating me up is usually below threshold but sometimes above threshold depending on situation.
Friend/family stealing my money is usually below threshold for small amounts and above threshold for large amounts.
Friend/family beating me up is usually below threshold but sometimes above threshold depending on situation.
I might not wanna talk too much about it publicly but, I do have a sense of what the triggers are, for a situation I face to suddenly go above threshold. Ofcourse my triggers could be poorly calibrated to reality (or worse, become a self-fulfilling prophecy as described in the post).
Yes, this is a short term thing which is (usually?) unstable and requires actively pouring energy into maintaining. A group that has a chance of this working long term usually has specific people that act as gateways—sometimes introducing a new person, sometimes getting rid of a person who shouldn’t be there. It’s another side of keeping gardens well pruned. They also tend to be insular, as otherwise it’s too easy for the wrong person to enter.
Thanks! I love this answer.
I think this makes more sense for short rather than long periods of time. The morality of people in your village is unlikely to change in one day to the point where they will steal it, but it can change over a period of 10 years.
Speaking about my situation personally:
Random stranger I meet stealing my money is always above threshold.
Random stranger I meet beating me up is usually below threshold but sometimes above threshold depending on situation.
Friend/family stealing my money is usually below threshold for small amounts and above threshold for large amounts.
Friend/family beating me up is usually below threshold but sometimes above threshold depending on situation.
I might not wanna talk too much about it publicly but, I do have a sense of what the triggers are, for a situation I face to suddenly go above threshold. Ofcourse my triggers could be poorly calibrated to reality (or worse, become a self-fulfilling prophecy as described in the post).
Yes, this is a short term thing which is (usually?) unstable and requires actively pouring energy into maintaining. A group that has a chance of this working long term usually has specific people that act as gateways—sometimes introducing a new person, sometimes getting rid of a person who shouldn’t be there. It’s another side of keeping gardens well pruned. They also tend to be insular, as otherwise it’s too easy for the wrong person to enter.
I avoid groups like the plague. My best relationships are all 1-to-1 and will be affected zero if any group or mutuals break apart.
I agree building groups long-term is hard. I don’t have very deep understanding of why.
It might be worth creating some sort of internet survey to measure this.