The main issue I have is that, especially in the case of succession but in general too, I see that situations are often evaluated from some outside viewpoint which continues to be able to experience the situation rather than from the individual itself, which while necessary to stop the theorizing after the third sentence, isn’t what would ‘really happen’ down here in the real world.
In the case of dying to save my children (Do not currently have any or plan to, but for the hypothetical) I would not, though I am struggling to properly articulate my reasoning besides saying “if I’m dead I can’t see my children anyway” which doesn’t feel like a solid enough argument or really align with my thoughts completely.
An example given in the selfishness post is either dying immediately to save the rest of humanity, or living another year than all humanity dies, and in that case I would pick to die, since ultimately the outcome is the same either way (I die) but on the chance the universe continues to exist after I die (I think this is basically certain) the rest of humanity would be fine. And on a more micro-level, living knowing that I and everyone else have one year left to live, and that it’s my fault, sounds utterly agonizing.
And on a more micro-level, living knowing that I and everyone else have one year left to live, and that it’s my fault, sounds utterly agonizing.
Earlier you say:
or frankly even if anyone who continues to exist after I die has fun or not or dies or not, because I will be dead, and at that point, from my prospective, the universe may as well not exist anymore.
How are these compatible? You don’t care if all other humans die after you die unless you are responsible?
That’s pretty much it! If everyone in the world was set to die four minutes after I died, and this was just an immutable fact of the universe, then that would be super unfortunate, but oh well, I can’t do anything about it, so I shouldn’t really care that much. In the situation in which I more directly cause/choose, not only have I cut my and everyone else’s lives short to just a year, I also am directly responsible, and could have chosen to just not do that!
The main issue I have is that, especially in the case of succession but in general too, I see that situations are often evaluated from some outside viewpoint which continues to be able to experience the situation rather than from the individual itself, which while necessary to stop the theorizing after the third sentence, isn’t what would ‘really happen’ down here in the real world.
In the case of dying to save my children (Do not currently have any or plan to, but for the hypothetical) I would not, though I am struggling to properly articulate my reasoning besides saying “if I’m dead I can’t see my children anyway” which doesn’t feel like a solid enough argument or really align with my thoughts completely.
An example given in the selfishness post is either dying immediately to save the rest of humanity, or living another year than all humanity dies, and in that case I would pick to die, since ultimately the outcome is the same either way (I die) but on the chance the universe continues to exist after I die (I think this is basically certain) the rest of humanity would be fine. And on a more micro-level, living knowing that I and everyone else have one year left to live, and that it’s my fault, sounds utterly agonizing.
Earlier you say:
How are these compatible? You don’t care if all other humans die after you die unless you are responsible?
That’s pretty much it! If everyone in the world was set to die four minutes after I died, and this was just an immutable fact of the universe, then that would be super unfortunate, but oh well, I can’t do anything about it, so I shouldn’t really care that much. In the situation in which I more directly cause/choose, not only have I cut my and everyone else’s lives short to just a year, I also am directly responsible, and could have chosen to just not do that!