In terms of utilitarian practicality, I’d say that prohibiting others from approaching within 96 feet of you is a far greater imposition on others than prohibiting others from having sex with you.
From a utilitarian point of view, it’s not that having sex must always entail the consent of all participants, it’s just that situations where no sex has worse consequences than nonconsensual sex (say, a person is given an ultimatum by sadistic pirates to rape a woman or have their village razed) are vanishingly rare and improbable.
Greater total distress between the participants, and the broader community if applicable, over time.
I don’t know if the Superhappies could relate to the idea of reproductive defensiveness, and while I understand what Eliezer was going for with the human sexual culture in Three Worlds Collide, I think it’s pretty unlikely that our culture will ever actually develop in that way.
Reproductive defensiveness is a lot like sexual pleasure in that it varies in degree from person to person, but is probably, in a general way, hardwired into our species. For women particularly, inability to exercise choice in picking a reproductive partner could mean the difference between continuation and extinction of a genetic line. And speaking as a man, I’ve felt a repulsion from having sex with a partner (a “don’t stick your dick in the crazy” response,) which was absolutely visceral. Having sex with the wrong partner can create disadvantageous social ties which can be positively ruinous for an individual.
Some cases are necessarily going to be borderline; an individual can be ambivalent regarding whether to have sex with a particular partner or not. But when one allows others to push the borders of their willingness to engage in sex, they’re liable to start down a slippery slope where it becomes more and more difficult to refuse sex they don’t want (particularly if they acquire a reputation which travels between partners.) I’ve very often seen people who gave in to pressure to have sex they didn’t want come away with long lasting regrets, whereas people who’ve gained long term satisfaction from sex they pressured a particular other person who didn’t want it into having seem much harder to find.
In terms of utilitarian practicality, I’d say that prohibiting others from approaching within 96 feet of you is a far greater imposition on others than prohibiting others from having sex with you.
From a utilitarian point of view, it’s not that having sex must always entail the consent of all participants, it’s just that situations where no sex has worse consequences than nonconsensual sex (say, a person is given an ultimatum by sadistic pirates to rape a woman or have their village razed) are vanishingly rare and improbable.
And these “worse consequences” are? How would you explain them to say the super-happies from Three Worlds Collide or for that matter to the human culture from Three Worlds Collide?
Greater total distress between the participants, and the broader community if applicable, over time.
I don’t know if the Superhappies could relate to the idea of reproductive defensiveness, and while I understand what Eliezer was going for with the human sexual culture in Three Worlds Collide, I think it’s pretty unlikely that our culture will ever actually develop in that way.
Reproductive defensiveness is a lot like sexual pleasure in that it varies in degree from person to person, but is probably, in a general way, hardwired into our species. For women particularly, inability to exercise choice in picking a reproductive partner could mean the difference between continuation and extinction of a genetic line. And speaking as a man, I’ve felt a repulsion from having sex with a partner (a “don’t stick your dick in the crazy” response,) which was absolutely visceral. Having sex with the wrong partner can create disadvantageous social ties which can be positively ruinous for an individual.
Some cases are necessarily going to be borderline; an individual can be ambivalent regarding whether to have sex with a particular partner or not. But when one allows others to push the borders of their willingness to engage in sex, they’re liable to start down a slippery slope where it becomes more and more difficult to refuse sex they don’t want (particularly if they acquire a reputation which travels between partners.) I’ve very often seen people who gave in to pressure to have sex they didn’t want come away with long lasting regrets, whereas people who’ve gained long term satisfaction from sex they pressured a particular other person who didn’t want it into having seem much harder to find.