I agree with the counterarguments people have commented here.
I nonetheless have also felt something is off about how people say “we are confused about agency” or similar. It does often feel like a bit of a cultural signal. And sometimes it feels… idk, some flavorcombo of “giving up” and “committed to a particular frame.”
I think it maybe feels particularly off when particular people say it a particular way, and I don’t feel up for picking the fight about that right now, but, wanted to flag that it feels like there is at least something to this post, despite me agreeing with much of Richard and Tsvi’s takes.
I resonate with the vibe of this comment, despite recognizing that we probably have some object-level disagreements.
Note that I only put 65% confidence on the phrase “we are confused about agency” actually being “wrong” in the sense of incorrectly describing our epistemic state.
I agree with the counterarguments people have commented here.
I nonetheless have also felt something is off about how people say “we are confused about agency” or similar. It does often feel like a bit of a cultural signal. And sometimes it feels… idk, some flavorcombo of “giving up” and “committed to a particular frame.”
I think it maybe feels particularly off when particular people say it a particular way, and I don’t feel up for picking the fight about that right now, but, wanted to flag that it feels like there is at least something to this post, despite me agreeing with much of Richard and Tsvi’s takes.
I resonate with the vibe of this comment, despite recognizing that we probably have some object-level disagreements.
Note that I only put 65% confidence on the phrase “we are confused about agency” actually being “wrong” in the sense of incorrectly describing our epistemic state.