6: Wait, this question only seems salient to me because I’m driving a flesh-robot evolved under contingent conditions. The regularities in human sex-associated categories are of very little importance to me on reflection, except as a proxy for (others’) sanity. I should shut up about gender and focus on solving X-risk.
7: ok, but a lot of why I want to solve x-risk is that I have a positive view of a human+ world where people have radical transhumanism of various kinds available, including being able to do things like full-functioning style transfer of their body in various currently-weird ways, which goes far beyond gender into things like: what if replace my dna with something more efficient that keeps everything beautiful about dna but works at 3 kelvin in deep space while I make art in orbit of pluto for the next 10,000 years, and also I still want to look like an attractive ape even though at that point I won’t really be one
I don’t get why this take was so much more popular than my post though—like, do people really think that winning the culture war on gender will effect whether we can have a trans humanist future after the singularity? This does not make sense to me.
I’d guess it’s levels of political spam machine derived messaging, scissor-statement-ish stuff. I strong agree’d and strong downvoted your post because of that. I guess mine was sufficiently galaxy brained to dodge the association somewhat? also, like, I’m pitching something to look forward to—a thing to seek, in addition to the normal thing to avoid. and it seems like a lot of the stuff that backs the current disagreements is more obviously solved if you have tech advanced enough to do what I was describing. idk though.
Being able to do weird stuff with body swapping is like 2.5% of the reason I want to solve x-risk, but more power to you—by choosing increasing natural number labels, I tacitly implied the existence of higher levels, and if this is yours then go for it :)
levels of gender discourse.
1: Obviously a man is a man and a woman is woman lol
2: Gender is a social construct so anyone can be a man or a woman (you transphobic moron)
3: (Typical) Men and women are biologically and psychologically different along various axes
4: “The categories were made for man”
5: “The categories were made for man to make predictions”
6: Wait, this question only seems salient to me because I’m driving a flesh-robot evolved under contingent conditions. The regularities in human sex-associated categories are of very little importance to me on reflection, except as a proxy for (others’) sanity. I should shut up about gender and focus on solving X-risk.
7: ok, but a lot of why I want to solve x-risk is that I have a positive view of a human+ world where people have radical transhumanism of various kinds available, including being able to do things like full-functioning style transfer of their body in various currently-weird ways, which goes far beyond gender into things like: what if replace my dna with something more efficient that keeps everything beautiful about dna but works at 3 kelvin in deep space while I make art in orbit of pluto for the next 10,000 years, and also I still want to look like an attractive ape even though at that point I won’t really be one
I don’t get why this take was so much more popular than my post though—like, do people really think that winning the culture war on gender will effect whether we can have a trans humanist future after the singularity? This does not make sense to me.
I’d guess it’s levels of political spam machine derived messaging, scissor-statement-ish stuff. I strong agree’d and strong downvoted your post because of that. I guess mine was sufficiently galaxy brained to dodge the association somewhat? also, like, I’m pitching something to look forward to—a thing to seek, in addition to the normal thing to avoid. and it seems like a lot of the stuff that backs the current disagreements is more obviously solved if you have tech advanced enough to do what I was describing. idk though.
Being able to do weird stuff with body swapping is like 2.5% of the reason I want to solve x-risk, but more power to you—by choosing increasing natural number labels, I tacitly implied the existence of higher levels, and if this is yours then go for it :)