In the absence of a suitable definition of (human) value I (or abramdemski) can only appeal to you intuition of this. You apparently agree that there is a range between the extremes and that the example fall in between. But you seem to refuse to compare these. That could imply that it a) measuring it to sufficient precision is impossible/impractical or b) might not be possible to find a continuous range where all activities can be compared (at least in principle) and instead a more abstract like a lattice has to be used. I could agree to that.
You apparently agree that there is a range between the extremes and that the example fall in between.
No, I don’t. I’m asking for your definition of the extremes and the measure of what falls where on the range, because I don’t share whatever intuition you’re using.
ETA: Wireheading is a single thing with arguments for and against it. Part of your (or OP’s) argument seems to be “wireheading is bad so let’s avoid things that are sufficiently like it”. In that case I’m asking, what makes fiction more like wireheading than those other things?
In the absence of a suitable definition of (human) value I (or abramdemski) can only appeal to you intuition of this. You apparently agree that there is a range between the extremes and that the example fall in between. But you seem to refuse to compare these. That could imply that it a) measuring it to sufficient precision is impossible/impractical or b) might not be possible to find a continuous range where all activities can be compared (at least in principle) and instead a more abstract like a lattice has to be used. I could agree to that.
No, I don’t. I’m asking for your definition of the extremes and the measure of what falls where on the range, because I don’t share whatever intuition you’re using.
ETA: Wireheading is a single thing with arguments for and against it. Part of your (or OP’s) argument seems to be “wireheading is bad so let’s avoid things that are sufficiently like it”. In that case I’m asking, what makes fiction more like wireheading than those other things?