Trans people are over-represented in the rationalist community, relative to general population. It should be evident to anybody who hangs out with a lot of rationalists (at least in “big rationality hubs”) or attends big rationality meetups. But I think I also saw some census data (either SSC/ACX or the LW census) confirming that.
“Over-represented relative to general population” and “only a few” can both be simultaneously true.
Like, if in the general population on average 1 in 1000 is trans, and among the rationalists it is 1 in 100, and you have 1000 rationalists living in the Bay Area… that still means only 10 trans rationalists you can talk to if you live in the Bay Area, one of them is Ziz. (The numbers are made up, just as an example.)
In the largest LW survey, 10.5% of users were transgender. This also increase the most deep in the community you are: 18% restricting to those who are either “sometimes” or “all the times” in the community, 21% restricting to those who are “all the times” in the community.
I guess it makes more sense this way. Like, the more transgenders there are in the community, the smaller the fraction of Zizians among them. With the numbers I originally assumed, Ziz’s conversion ratio would be shockingly high. Now it makes more sense.
Thank you, this changes my perspective on the situation.
Without having looked at the survey numbers recently, I think the percentage of rationalists who identify as trans in the United States are a lot higher than what you see in Europe.
If you only have been at European meetups, it’s natural to assume lower rates.
Source? I thought 2016 had the most takers but that one seems to have ~5% trans. The latest one with results out (2023) has 7.5% trans. Are you counting “non-binary” or “other” as well? Or referring to some other survey.
Trans people are over-represented in the rationalist community, relative to general population. It should be evident to anybody who hangs out with a lot of rationalists (at least in “big rationality hubs”) or attends big rationality meetups. But I think I also saw some census data (either SSC/ACX or the LW census) confirming that.
“Over-represented relative to general population” and “only a few” can both be simultaneously true.
Like, if in the general population on average 1 in 1000 is trans, and among the rationalists it is 1 in 100, and you have 1000 rationalists living in the Bay Area… that still means only 10 trans rationalists you can talk to if you live in the Bay Area, one of them is Ziz. (The numbers are made up, just as an example.)
In the largest LW survey, 10.5% of users were transgender. This also increase the most deep in the community you are: 18% restricting to those who are either “sometimes” or “all the times” in the community, 21% restricting to those who are “all the times” in the community.
Oh. I somehow missed/forgot that.
I guess it makes more sense this way. Like, the more transgenders there are in the community, the smaller the fraction of Zizians among them. With the numbers I originally assumed, Ziz’s conversion ratio would be shockingly high. Now it makes more sense.
Thank you, this changes my perspective on the situation.
Without having looked at the survey numbers recently, I think the percentage of rationalists who identify as trans in the United States are a lot higher than what you see in Europe.
If you only have been at European meetups, it’s natural to assume lower rates.
Source? I thought 2016 had the most takers but that one seems to have ~5% trans. The latest one with results out (2023) has 7.5% trans. Are you counting “non-binary” or “other” as well? Or referring to some other survey.
I’m using the 2016 survey and counting non-binary yes.