Given a handful of requirements, what are some options to creating a perfect (or close to) Utopian civilization? This is purely for my own entertainment purposes, and I feel its a fun, timeless topic to discuss among the users of LessWrong. I highly encourage criticism of others responses and answers, as well as the criticism of the requirements/restraints I have stated below.
The requirements are simple.
Increase happiness, pleasure, and well-being as much as possible, while decreasing suffering, displeasure, and unwell-being as much as possible.
No limit can be put on growth as a species and society. We must be able to expand, and increase population.
No AI or “Basilisk” like entity can be in control of society. A human person(s) must be in charge, if any.
Solutions to problems must be stated now. Using the advancement of technology and philosophy in the future as a potential solution is not an option. For example, stating: “Humanity will be more advanced in the future, and able to solve this problem at that point in time” Is not a solution.
This Utopia takes place in this current timeline, in whatever current time you are seeing this post, meaning you cannot change the past to influence your Utopia. However, Explaining your plans for the future of your Utopia is highly recommended.
Measures must be taken to eliminate, or reduce the risk of societal collapse.
Morals and ethics are not in play, the less moral and ethical, the better.
The entire idea of any Utopia, by definition, is quite unlikely. With the requirements/restraints stated, I believe the entire idea in and of itself, is near impossible, if not an impossible idea altogether. However I do hope to see some still try and attempt a thought out response to the question, and would love to hear more thoughts from you about the topic.
[Question] If I asked for an explanation of a perfect Utopia, could you give one?
Given a handful of requirements, what are some options to creating a perfect (or close to) Utopian civilization? This is purely for my own entertainment purposes, and I feel its a fun, timeless topic to discuss among the users of LessWrong. I highly encourage criticism of others responses and answers, as well as the criticism of the requirements/restraints I have stated below.
The requirements are simple.
Increase happiness, pleasure, and well-being as much as possible, while decreasing suffering, displeasure, and unwell-being as much as possible.
No limit can be put on growth as a species and society. We must be able to expand, and increase population.
No AI or “Basilisk” like entity can be in control of society. A human person(s) must be in charge, if any.
Solutions to problems must be stated now. Using the advancement of technology and philosophy in the future as a potential solution is not an option. For example, stating: “Humanity will be more advanced in the future, and able to solve this problem at that point in time” Is not a solution.
This Utopia takes place in this current timeline, in whatever current time you are seeing this post, meaning you cannot change the past to influence your Utopia. However, Explaining your plans for the future of your Utopia is highly recommended.
Measures must be taken to eliminate, or reduce the risk of societal collapse.
Morals and ethics are not in play, the less moral and ethical, the better.
Humans are in charge… the less moral and ethical, the better… and yet somehow the suffering is decreasing.
This already sounds quite unlikely.
The entire idea of any Utopia, by definition, is quite unlikely. With the requirements/restraints stated, I believe the entire idea in and of itself, is near impossible, if not an impossible idea altogether. However I do hope to see some still try and attempt a thought out response to the question, and would love to hear more thoughts from you about the topic.
Thank you for being my first comment, Villiam.