By the way, how far is (a saner rendering of) “moral realism” from simply a focus on “objective” in “subjectively objective values”? That is, any given agent can’t escape from fixed moral truths no more than physical reality, even though there are other physical realities and agents with other goals. This doesn’t look like a disagreement.
Toby mentioned that moral realism went together with value simplicity, so presumably he meant a version of moral realism that implies value simplicity, from which I infer that his position is not close to “subjectively objective values”.
Toby’s comment doesn’t strongly imply that he believes in value simplicity though. On the other hand, “value simplicity” can be parsed as correct as well, in the sense of pointing to human minds or even to own intuition and saying “values like this” (I weakly guess a moral realist would just use own intuition in this case instead of noticing it), so this needs further disambiguation. :-)
By the way, how far is (a saner rendering of) “moral realism” from simply a focus on “objective” in “subjectively objective values”? That is, any given agent can’t escape from fixed moral truths no more than physical reality, even though there are other physical realities and agents with other goals. This doesn’t look like a disagreement.
Toby mentioned that moral realism went together with value simplicity, so presumably he meant a version of moral realism that implies value simplicity, from which I infer that his position is not close to “subjectively objective values”.
Toby’s comment doesn’t strongly imply that he believes in value simplicity though. On the other hand, “value simplicity” can be parsed as correct as well, in the sense of pointing to human minds or even to own intuition and saying “values like this” (I weakly guess a moral realist would just use own intuition in this case instead of noticing it), so this needs further disambiguation. :-)